12-29-2006, 08:45 AM
(This post was last modified: 12-29-2006, 08:48 AM by Faith Hope Charity.)
Quote:Peace.....
Peace brother!
Quote:It amazes me how some people set standards then don't adhire to them.
Yet in your quest to be correct you've called me ignorant, questioned my religious belief and stated I don't interpret scripture as well as Satan does. (At least, I believe that was the point you were trying to get across) Interesting.
LOL! AlShamms, I didn't say those things... my friend Jacques did. I didn't think it was fair to edit his comments before posting them (he's still waiting for authorization to access the boards). I'm sure he didn't mean anything bad by what he said. He's an admirable Christian. I think you misunderstood the Satan point. Anyways, I'll let him respond when he's ready.
Quote:I also notice that when people cannot deal with what you say, they make up some absurd reasoning for not addressing it, For instance in order for them to consider what you say, you must prove your ability to interpret scripture to their approval. And if what you say does not meet their approval, they don't respond to the points you've made.
AlShamms, you & I can both attempt to interpret Scripture, but at the end of the day, the Holy Bible is the property of the Catholic Church (a whole other issue) & so our private interpretation doesn't bind universal Christians. It's the Church's duty to teach, govern & sanctify us, considering she put the books of the Bible together in the 4th Century AD... under the guidance of the Holy Spirit who protects her from error. What did Christians do during the fist 3 centuries when there was no "official" Bible? I'm not saying we shouldn't read the Bible (I read it every night) but what's going to happen when everyone appoints themselves to be the Pope? You'll end up with 50 000 different Christian denominations, which is the result of "Sola Scriptura". There are 50 000 various Christians Churches around the world! It's ridiculous man!!! Obviously only one interpretation is right - Christ did not build His Church on 50 000 different "Rocks of Faith". How do the Baptists prove that they're right & the Lutherans are wrong? How do the Methodists prove that they're right & the Presbyterians are wrong?... etc! The Catholic Church can trace its roots back to the Apostles: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12272b.htm One more thing to keep in mind, Martin Luther was way more Catholic than Protestants are today!
Quote:Seems to me to be a contradiction between your words and your actions. Anyway, let's continue.
Mate, I'm not perfect (I go to confession almost every week). Sorry if I crossed the line. I'm try to remain calm in future :)
Quote:In the King James Translation we read:
Not a bad translation! I'm looking forward to the Catholic edition :)
Quote:The language employed by the Saviour was in accordance with a common mode of speaking among the Jews, and exactly similar to that used by Moses at the institution of the Passover (Exodus 12:11) “It” - that is, the lamb - “is the Lord’s Passover.” That is, the lamb and the feast “represent” the Lord’s “passing over” the houses of the Israelites. It serves to remind you of it. It surely cannot be meant that that lamb was the literal “passing over” their houses - a palpable absurdity - but that it represented it.
Dude, do yourself a favour & read "The Lamb's Supper". Passover was a prefigurement of the Lord's Supper. Remember when St John the Baptist professed that Jesus Christ is the "Lamb of God"??? There's so much I wanna say to you right now! The Mass is deeply imbedded in the Book of Revelation... I can't even begin to tell ya! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE read Scott Hahn's book! Even if you don't agree with it in the end, it'll at least help you understand the Mass better :)
Quote:This to me seems a contradiction in what Christ said
I'm sorry you feel that way. Let's say "hypothetically" (for you) that Jesus really did mean for us to understand that the Eucharist was meant to be His real Body and Blood. What words would He have to use to signify that?
http://scripturecatholic.com/the_eucharist.html - Worth checking out!
AlShamms, are you Pentecostal? My friend is a pastor & he invited me along to one of their services. I might go this Sunday... after Mass ;)
God bless.