12-20-2006, 10:44 AM
Bismillah:
i am not going to repeat what i've said earlier, i already presented my view point and your replies are totally respected but yet rejected.
Anyway, to summarize what we have discussed so far I would say that:
1- You believe in a God who is consists of 3 distinct persons, you cant call each one separately as God, but altogether they are One God, in other words, Trinity. (which I truly and honestly do not understand)
2- You also believe in Allah, who is the God of Abraham (by the way, thanks for admitting this point as some of our Christians friends on this board were strongly against this fact that the term Allah is indeed used by Arab Christians and found in their Arabic Bible).
3- You have shown very unique attitude (unlike most Christians) where you said that being a good Muslim is more important than converting to Christianity. (or if I understand you correctly.
4- You believe that Jesus have the knowledge of the last day. (but your explanation was not convincing so far since the Bible tells us that he can do NOTHING of his own)
5- Regarding our arguments about the word “begotten”, you don’t believe that Jesus is the begotten son of God, but you believe that he is the only son of God. (my understanding of the terms SON and FATHER is totally different from what you have been told. “we can discuss this matter later”
6- You do admit that many versions of the Bible are interpolated / corrupted and you have advised us to use the RSV - CATHOLIC EDITION (in which I will examine it soon, but I will not ignore other versions since the same claim is made by other Christians defending their version of the Bible)
7- On the other thread of “Divorce in Islam” your solution for unsuccessful marriage was separation but not divorce (but I’ve already pointed out the danger of separation and hot it is terrible solution which may lead to sin i.e fornication.
8- You believe that Jesus is both God and human at the same time (so you do agree on the concept of tall & short man at the same time). As of me I can’t get it.
9- You admitted that the worship of Mary is wrong and worship due to God alone, but at the same time you don’t mind to honor Mary through her images (acts/forms of worship) but you don’t really worship her. (kind of confusing me)
10- You believe that Mary can intercede between man and God and you supported your claim by quoting John 2:1 where she asked Jesus to turn water into wine ( to me this is not intercession at all. This we may call it request.
11- You admitted that you can pray directly to God, but you don’t mind to ask the dead to pray for you if require.
12- You don’t mind to call Mary the mother of God, since someone else call her the mother of my lord and as we said earlier the term Lord does not mean God, it means master, teacher and even Prophet Abraham was called Lord by his wife in the Bible.
I cant remember more points nowr, but the above was the basic. Anyway no arguments shall be added insha'Allah. I understand your views and well respected.
Waiting for more questions about Islam.
Salam
Wael.