Bismillah:
Quote:Christians believe that the Father begot the Son. We do not say that God begot a son, therefore making 2 gods.
And who is the Father in Christian terminology? You believe that God the Father, and God the son and God the Holy Spirit are three distinct persons, although you are calling <i>“ALL OF THEM”</i> <b>One</b>, but yet each one have got separate personality.
According to the catholic creed, indeed they say that Jesus “The son” is the only begotten son of God, which means that God has begotten a son, same as what the Qur’an describes… so how can you say that <b>“we do not say that God begot a son”</b>???
Here is the Catholic Creed.
Quote:We believe in <b>one God, the Father Almighty</b>, maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, <b>the only begotten Son of God</b>
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So indeed the Christians do say that <b>God begets a son</b>, and this is exactly what the Qur’an says.
Quote:It's improper to say that God is Christ. Christians believe that God is Father, Son & Holy Spirit. It is acceptable to say that the "Father is God", "the Son is God" & "the Holy Spirit is God" but not the other way around. We cannot say that "God is the Father", "God is the Son" or "God is the Holy Spirit." Do you know what I mean?
I don’t really understand… all what I can say is that the Qur’anic verse referring to those who worship Jesus as God, and you know that <b>almost all</b> Christians do worship Jesus pbuh as God.
Quote:Christ always referred to God the Father as "Father".
he also referred to God as <b>“My God”</b>. Which indicate that he "Jesus" was not God.
Quote:Christ taught us to worship the Father, through the Son, in the Spirit.
If you are referring to John 14:6 then I do not see where does he teach you to <b>worship</b> the Father through him?? Because it was his job ‘as a prophet’ to guide his nation to the correct path and so if no one follow him during his mission, then he or she will not be guided to the true path (Heaven). This is what he meant and this is how I understand this verse, and so did many other Christians.
Quote:Christians don't worship Mary.
<b>Indeed the Catholic do worship Mary</b>, (am not talking about honoring Mary because we Muslims do honor her as well) I am talking about worshipping her, praying to her to forgive sins, bowing down to her images, touching them to gain blessing, Rosary, and other practices which I’ve seen with my own eyes when I was in the Philippines, and during my discussion with Catholics. So the verse is talking about those who worship Mary. Plus accorinding to the Catholic creed, Mary was also "God the son" incarnate, and that’s why many people do worship her:
Quote:light of light, true God of true God. Begotten not made, consubstantial to the Father, by whom all things were made. Who for us men and for our salvation came down from heaven. <b>And was incarnate of the Holy Ghost and of the Virgin Mary and was made man</b>
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So, if you personally don’t worship her, then we Muslims should congratulate you for this.
Quote:So how do Muslims such as yourself feel about leaders who promise their members abundant rewards in Paradise if they become suicide bombers, etc.??? It's a case of humans playing the role of Allah, right?
<b>Which leaders are you talking about? Could you name some? </b>
Quote:Also, if Allah is the judge of all humankind, why do Islamic authorities implement harsh penalties for "crimes" such as proselytizing & apostasy?
Here are 2 links covering apostasy issue.
http://islamsms.com/bb/index.php?showt...425&hl=apostasy
http://islamsms.com/bb/index.php?showt...752&hl=apostasy
<b>Please don’t forget that death penalty was prescribed for apostasy in the Bible too </b>
Also here is a very informative link by Dr Yusuf Al Qaradawi speaking on apostasy.
Dr Yusuf Al Qaradawi on Apostasy
Quote:As far as Catholics are concerned, we have a similar doctrine to yours The only difference is we believe the means of salvation have been granted to all peoples by the merits of Jesus Christ through the Incarnation & Paschal Mystery.
I’ve been asking Christians to show me one single verse quoted by Jesus pbuh himself to support the above claim… but I got none…
I mean where <b>he (Jesus pbuh)</b> said that ‘Salvation were granted to ALL people by my merits or through my blood'
Salam
Wael.