12-01-2006, 11:24 PM
Quote:Why do atheists use verses of the Quran when they do not believe in the existence of the creator nor in his scriptures.
According to them, the verses of Quran are not true but use them regardless as if they were true to prove their point. :conf06:
Do atheists believe these verses to be the speech of the creator? If no, why use them at all because if I believed something was false I would not be using it to further my points.
It’s not particularly difficult to understand, Deen. It makes little difference whether I believe those verses or not. What does matter is that many muslims do believe those verses and others like them. The danger arises when literal interpretation of ancient scripts is taken as a model for how one lives ones life.
In the conflict that is brewing (and brewing larger by the day), its frequently literal, orthodox religious belief that is very clearly at the core. I know the theists are going to jump around and claim that it's the <i>corruption</i> of the religious beliefs and a desire for wealth and power and land, etc., but such finger pointing is a loop then ends up directed at oneself. Ask each of the three groups their perspective, and you will find the majority of each section will assert that in the skirmish:
Moslems believe they righteous and god is on their side
Jews believe they are righteous and god is on their side
Christians believe they are righteous and god is on their side
Step back and look at all warring theists out there: which ones say, "God is <i>not</i> on our side!" ?
No religion claims itself secondary in comparison to its competition. That would dismantle the authority of every religion ("Well, we're sort of right," said the Dalai Lama, "But you know, maybe those Christians are <i>really right."</i> Uh, not likely.)
Why do you think that Muslims are so overtly hostile to competing religions? Isn’t revulsion for non-Muslims a direct product of your faith? We both know that’s true as there are direct, identifiable admonishments to such in the Quran.
I don't think you can discuss this dynamic without including some major consideration to the wellspring of the above beliefs. That is, and has been, and will remain-- the religious beliefs.