Bismillah:
Quote:I probably should not have allowed you to back yourself into such a corner but I’m surprised you’ve carried on this charade of quaranic science and "mountains stabilize the earth", nonsense. While I didn’t intend to string you along, it is amusing to watch you defend the indefensible.
Blah blah blah... Ok next. <_<
Quote:It would appear we’re on the horns of a dilemma here:
We placed firmly embedded mountains on the earth, so it would not move under them… (Qur'an, 21:31)
… [He] cast firmly embedded mountains on the earth so that it would not move under you… (Qur'an, 31:10)
We subjected the mountains to glorify [Allah] with him in the evening and at sunrise.
(Qur’an, 38:18)
He cast firmly embedded mountains on the earth so it would not move under you, and rivers and pathways so that hopefully you would be guided.
(Qur’an, 16:15)
So what you are trying to emphasize by quoting those verses? huh ?
Quote:I’m not sure who “we” is (perhaps Allah needs help?),
Yes you are not sure because simply you don’t know. So just ask
<b>without making some kind of useless and hopeless comments.
</b>
In several languages, there are
<b>two types of plurals
</b>; one is a plural of numbers to refer to something that occurs in a quantity of more than one. The other plural is a
<b> plural of respect.
</b>
So, when Allah refers to Himself in the Qur’an, He often uses Arabic word
<b>'Nahnu' meaning ‘We’.
</b> It does not indicate plural of number
<b>but plural of respect.
</b>
Tawheed or monotheism is one of the pillars of Islam. The existence and uniqueness of one and only one God is mentioned several times in the Qur’an. For instance in chapter 112 it says:
<b>"Say He is Allah the One and Only."
</b>[Al-Qur’an 112: 1]
Hey,
<b>you better watch your mouth when talking about Allah whom we believe to be God Almighty
</b>. Otherwise you are not welcome here and banning you will be the best solution. So if you desire to stay here, then please show some respect when debating. There is no need to use provocative words if you are seeking a healthy discussion.
<b>SISTER MUSLIMAH: am sorry to warn him while am not in such position, but please consider my warning to be the first for Ruggedtouch. Thanks.
</b>
Quote:Speaking of the “Flat Earth Society”:
Cited by Carl Sagan (perhaps my favorite author) in "
<i>The Demon-haunted World
</i>'', Ballantine, ISBN 0-345-40946-9, p. 325:
``In 1993, the supreme religious authority of Saudi Arabia, Sheik Abdel-Aziz ibn Baaz, issued a edict, or fatwah,
<b>declaring that the world is flat. Anyone of the round persuasion does not believe in God and should be punished
</b>.''
"
<b>The earth is flat. Whoever claims it is round is an atheist deserving of punishment.
</b>" Yousef M. Ibrahim, "
<i>Muslim Edicts take on New Force
</i>", The New York Times, February 12, 1995, p. A-14.
Who is Abdel Aziz Ibn Baaz ANYWAY, is he God Almighty???
<b>There is not a single verse of the Qur’an says that the earth is flat.
</b>
So the above statement of Mr Baaz carries no weight since the Holy Qur’an perfectly mentioned the actual shape of the earth which is egg shape or geospherical.
Salam
Wael