11-12-2006, 04:48 PM
Quote:Bismillah
salam Rugged
Well let me try to re phrase what i already re phrased. Being revealed 1400 years ago when a lot of issues were not yet know to humanity, including for instance the evolution of an embryo, it becomes quite alerting to read such a text given the fact that the book was revealed to an illiterate. I recall a young American revert telling me that when she first read the Quran, when she came to those Ayahs, all she thought was that Mohamed salla Allah a`lyhee wa sallam sort of got about 10 pregnant women, opened their wombs and was able somehow to realize those facts. Funny, isnt it? might post it on the smiling thread. :) Later on when those facts became known to humanity thru science, mistakenly people titled those points as science in Quran or discoveries. You made me think about another title. Will keep thinking Insh a Allah.
Now the next post is not for u :) so dont tell me I already read Quran.
Even if i m offering u to later on read what i m translating, I think u need to give it a try, why not? reading the quran is different from reading articles focusing on certain points.
The “Quranic Miracles” and “science in the quran” you’re hoping to propose crumble to the ground. All such verses are unforgivably vague and inaccurate and were in most cases, borrowed from earlier (mainly Greek), philosophers. The mere fact that most of the quaranic “science” is so vague as to require considerable “explanation” and "commentary" before they can even be considered as saying anything scientific at all demands that we apply a skepticism against considering them as real.
But more to the point, none of them contain any real information that was not already known centuries earlier.
The embryology verses are particular examples. For starters, they describe nothing that is "microscopic." A drop of semen (nutfah), a clot (alaqah), and a "chewed lump of meat" (mudghah) are all perfectly visible to the naked eye.
Second, the Qur'anic version of "embryology" is not significantly different from the pagan Greek version of embryology. And the Greek version is 500 years older.
Third, both the Greek and Qur'anic versions are wrong. The idea that an embryo was ever mere "nutfah" was discarded once we learned of the ovum. The embryo is never a clot. And a "chewed lump of meat" is hardly a meaningful description of anything.
And if you get the Hadith involved the errors are even worse.
BTW, "lamps in the sky", "planets as ornaments" is not science.