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09-26-2006, 02:43 AM

I offered an explanation of what the trinity is. It is not fair to say that the words of others are my words, and because they cannot explain it that does not mean I cannot. In other words, you should respond to what I say, not to how you think I think of the issue based on the established orthodoxy of others.

However, the premise of the trinity is the existence of God, (or Allah) which cannot be "proved" using reason or science, the existence of God must be believed. Thus your seeking a rational explanation of the trinity, when it is based on faith, is "irrational" isn't it? :-)

I think the trouble you have is with the concept of the Spirit more than Jesus as the Son of God, but the concept of the Spirit is not made up or added to the Bible by theologians. It is discussed quited clearly.

1 John 5:7-9 (New International Version)

For there are three that testify: 8the[a] Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement. 9We accept man's testimony, but God's testimony is greater because it is the testimony of God, which he has given about his Son.

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