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Who created God
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Quote:Bismillah


salam


I felt that I m moved to give an input. I waited for sometime trying to see what datt, has to offer. I was alway anxious to know more how hinus go with their faith.


I was stopped at two positions the most.


First like my brother deen was also caught by surprise the fact that god created this universe for entertainment. Like god had nothing to do, thus suddenly decided o we........is god not even in the rank of a key player but just a spectator. If the creator does nothing but watch, then who runs the universe, I wonder?


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The logic shows four types of authorities to decide any point. The first is perception (Pratyaksham), in which anything is directly experienced through senses in this world. The second is inference (Anumanam), in which anything is inferred based on a characteristic sign. For example, smoke is coming from a mountain and fire is inferred. In this authority also the perception is the basis because the relationship between fire and smoke is already perceived in the kitchen. The third authority is simile (Upamanam), in which an unseen animal is explained to us by comparing it with a known animal. Even here, the person who is explaining has seen both the animals and thus perception is the basis.


The fourth is the statement of a well-wisher (Shabdam), by which we believe the existence of an unseen item explained by our well-wisher. Here also perception is the basis because the well-wisher has seen that place. Therefore there is no authority, which is not based on perception. The scripture (Sruti), supporting scripture (Smruti), logic (Yukti) and finally the direct experience (Anubhava) are considered as the four stages of any authorized validity of a concept. The final stage of experience (Anubhava) is very important and forms the basis because it is again related to perception only. Therefore you cannot say anything which is beyond experience and perception.


<b>Even the unimaginable God (Parabrahman) is experienced through human form. In this case the experience may not be direct but the experience is through a medium (Human body). The experience is same whether it is direct or indirect. The heat from the fire is experienced directly and the same heat is experienced indirectly from a hot iron rod. This experience does not reveal the nature of Parabrahman because the experience is based on a characteristic sign of the medium only which is specific to the existence of the unimaginable God. Such characteristic sign is the specific special knowledge called as Prajnanam. The knowledge is the property of a specific quality (Sattvam), which is an associated property of awareness. Thus it is not the property of God and thus God is untouched by anyone. Due to His presence, this knowledge becomes special and wonderful by which we can infer the existence of God. The unimaginable knowledge indicates the unimaginable God. </b>






<b>Thus we have the perception of human incarnation in this world and thus God is perceived by us (Yat sakshat.., pratyagatmanamaikshat -Veda).</b>
Therefore science which is based on the perception is the basis of the spiritual knowledge. The human incarnation showing specialties is satisfying the basic perception. The unimaginable talents of the human incarnation indicating the unimaginable God are clearly perceived. <b>Therefore the unimaginable God is perceived but the unimaginability is not violated. </b>
To deny the unimaginable God is unscientific and shows only foolish rigidity.

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Who created God - by dattaswami - 09-18-2006, 02:01 PM
Who created God - by Deen - 09-20-2006, 08:39 PM
Who created God - by voice of reason - 09-21-2006, 01:14 AM
Who created God - by dattaswami - 09-21-2006, 01:55 AM
Who created God - by voice of reason - 09-21-2006, 02:17 AM
Who created God - by dattaswami - 09-21-2006, 02:33 AM
Who created God - by voice of reason - 09-21-2006, 02:48 AM
Who created God - by wel_mel_2 - 09-21-2006, 04:40 AM
Who created God - by Deen - 09-21-2006, 05:49 PM
Who created God - by Muslimah - 09-21-2006, 08:36 PM
Who created God - by dattaswami - 09-22-2006, 02:03 AM
Who created God - by dattaswami - 09-22-2006, 02:10 AM
Who created God - by dattaswami - 09-22-2006, 02:20 AM
Who created God - by dattaswami - 09-22-2006, 02:44 AM

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