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What to expect from prayer?
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Quote:I tend to think logically, logic which is axiomatic, like math 2+2=4 no matter what objects designate numbered. Some things are logical and contradictions and paradoxes do not really exist except on paper. Take this for an example Something cannot be all red but yet have some green on it. Otherwise it is not ALL red.


That just covers a little of how I think. If I were to pray to a tree and received no reponse of ANY kind why would I pray to this tree?


If I were to pray to a statue and received no response at all, why would I continue to pray to this statue?


If I were to pray to a man across the world and did not receive any communication back why would I pray to this man?


If I were to pray to a spirit or a god and received no communication back why would I continue to pray to this being?


If Allah exists and has spoken to others then why am I any different? Does Allah pick favorites? That would be human bias.


I believe IF Allah exists then he gave me the reason I have. Therefore I am under no obligation to believe hearsay from someone else that told me Allah spoke to them.


This is extremely unfair hearsay is not accepted in a court of law because it is illogical. My reason then tells me that I should not accept hearsay evidence of any kind from any person. I may believe that person because they have shown to be honest but I cannot be absolute in my belief.


When I have prayed I have heard no response not physically or internally. Nothing at all. Perhaps if Allah exists I am not chosen, so He does not respond to me. All is predestined if Allah is an omnipotent being.


Perhaps I am predestined to be destroyed?


That is truly sad though, because I have sought after a god I have searched, and asked, and prayed for answers. Though no response.


I thought this to be a good healthy discussion because I was posed this question and that was my answer above in short. I can dialogue in much deeper detail.


Thanks an peace to all who respond,


Voice of Reason

Ok here is my personal opinion.


It is mentioned in the Qur’an chapter 40 verse 60


“And your Lord says: “Call on Me; I will answer your (Prayer): <b>but those who are too arrogant to serve Me will surely find themselves in Hell – in humiliation!”</b>



So maybe you are praying but at the same time you do not really feel that it is right to do such thing, or maybe God Almighty still want to test your patience and see whether you will keep on asking for guidance or you will just give up?


Many people went through this same experience, but they knew for sure that <b>there is</b> a Creator for this universe but they didn't know who is He!!, and so they kept on searching and asking this <b>UNKNOWN</b> Creator for guidance and Alhamdulelah they were guided, and even some of them now are Scholars of Islam, like Bilal Philips for example.


So my advise to you my friend is, <b>don’t give up
</b>. Keep on praying with conviction, with feelings that you are in need of help, be sure that one day you are going to be guided by God, and that this Unknown Creator is going to respond one day. Insha’Allah. but He alone knows when would be the right time. because He also tells us in the Qur'an:


chapter 2 verse 216:


“But it is possible that ye dislike a thing <b>which is good for you</b>, and that ye love a thing <b>which is bad for you</b>. <b>But Allah knows, and you know not</b>.”



So keep on asking for guidance, and let Him decide the time.


Try to <b>prostrate yourself </b> before Him and ask Him sincerely for guidance, cry, weep and I too am going to ask Him to guide you to His right path. may He guide all of us to the straight way, Insha'Allah.


I wish to hear more opinions on this <b>very important </b> subject. Thank you all.


Salam


Wael.

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Messages In This Thread
What to expect from prayer? - by voice of reason - 09-21-2006, 01:05 AM
What to expect from prayer? - by dattaswami - 09-21-2006, 01:37 AM
What to expect from prayer? - by wel_mel_2 - 09-21-2006, 03:20 AM
What to expect from prayer? - by dattaswami - 09-21-2006, 01:50 PM
What to expect from prayer? - by WITNESS THE REAL - 09-22-2006, 03:16 AM
What to expect from prayer? - by dattaswami - 09-22-2006, 03:24 AM
What to expect from prayer? - by wel_mel_2 - 09-22-2006, 04:11 AM
What to expect from prayer? - by WITNESS THE REAL - 09-22-2006, 04:23 AM
What to expect from prayer? - by Muslimah - 09-22-2006, 01:11 PM
What to expect from prayer? - by dattaswami - 09-22-2006, 04:54 PM
What to expect from prayer? - by WITNESS THE REAL - 09-22-2006, 05:02 PM
What to expect from prayer? - by voice of reason - 10-02-2006, 12:15 AM
What to expect from prayer? - by wel_mel_2 - 10-03-2006, 02:47 AM
What to expect from prayer? - by Rock - 10-03-2006, 12:59 PM
What to expect from prayer? - by lifutushi - 10-05-2006, 08:12 AM

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