Quote:Bismillah:
Well, I have to agree with you on this Shamms. Our Christ pbuh and your Jesus are totally different. But there has to be only <b>ONE REAL CHRIST
</b>. And in this case, we are the winners
Peace......
Now, now Wel Mel, you knew I would have to disagree with you here. You seem to make much of the name "Christ" which is Christos in the greek language and means "annointed one". As far as you being the "winners"....well that really doesn't need to be addressed. I know what the Bible says and you say something different.
Quote:<b>“So no offense to any of our Christians friends on this board”</b> but I have to say that Muslims are the true followers of the <b>real</b> Christ because they assert him as the Messiah and not <b>“God the Messiah”</b>, the title ‘Christ’ does not mean divine and was not specifically given to <b>Jesus of the Bible</b>, <b>Cyrus</b> the pagan was also called Christ in the same Bible of Christians.
Actually Wel Mel, you are being misleading, either accidentally or on purpose to try to prove your point I don't know, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Christ as a title has never ment divine, it has always ment "annointed".
Cyrus wasn't called "Christ" as that is an English traslation of a Greek word. Cyrus was called annointed yes, but in Hebrew the term is "mâshîyach" and means, according to the Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew Lexicon; "anointed; usually a consecrated person (as a king, priest, or saint)".
There were a few people who were annointed in the Old Testament: The Kings of Israel (David, Solomon, Joshua); The High Priests of the Levitical Order (Aaron and his sons after him); and the patriarchs of the nation of Israel (Abraham, Issac, Jacob, Joseph).
If you like we can start a different thread where we can discuss the difference in the annointings between these men and Jesus Christ as there is a very big difference.
Quote:So I have to say that <b>‘Christians do not really know the real Christ’</b> <b>"they teach another person called Jesus</b>".. simply because neither the "J" nor the second "s" in the name Jesus is to be found in the original tongue of Christ, they are not found in the Semitic languages. His name was simply "ESAU" which is very common Jewish name and <b>Eisa</b> in Arabic, that is the real Christ peace and blessing be upon him.
am sorry, that was totally off topic but it was necessary for me to make this correction. Thanks.
Salam
Wael.
Correction? It is you Wel Mel, that need correcting....allow me to demonstrate.
Jesus is an English translation of the Greek "Iēsous", Greek being the language that the New Testament was written in. "Iesous" is itself a Greek translation of the Hebrew "yehôshûa‛" and means Yahovah's salvation. Yehoshua, Iesous, Jesus. From Hebrew to Greek to English. That is where the "J" comes from.
Now Esau as is rendered in the Hebrew is "‛êśâv" and means "handling; rough" as Esau was a very hairy man. It is interesting to note that the Greek language did not change the spelling of this name when it translates over, it is still "esau".
The two are not the same name and should not be confused. I hope this clears up your misunderstanding. You can, if you like, check any reputable Hebrew Lexicon to check the correctness of what I explained to you. Brown-Driver-Briggs, being the foremost authority. As far as Greek Lexicons go, you can check Thayer's Greek Lexicon, or Strong's Greek Dictionary. Both are very good.
I too am sorry for the depart from the topic, but this error had to be addressed.
Shamms