09-19-2006, 12:42 AM
Quote:Well Steve, your All over the place, lol.
Ok Steve, in answer to your response "Why Mecca?" I must say that you are so sorely mistaken if you think that Muslims are indeed worshipping a black box, much like Isreal worshipped the Golden Calf. This is not so and couldnt be further from the truth.
Allah commanded Muslims through the Qu'ran, that when we are making prayer, we face the Ka'ba (black box), for the significance as stated above by my brother or sister in faith, Muslimah. This form of worship (circling the Ka'ba during Hajj) is the exact same worship being preformed by the countless number of angels circling the Throne of Allah/God in the Heavens.
Now you raised many questions, which I cant answer, nor understand, but if you can clarify, perhaps question by question, I'd like to give an answer to your questions, if I can!
It seems to me, by your writing, your understanding of certain events which happened in your religions' scripture (im assuming the Gospel)needs to be clarified before we can move along any further on this topic. Such as:
"If we see false disctictions like Pagan, Jew, Christian and Muslim, has our trust in our reason made us more blind, rather than more attune to the Spirit? If the Spirit is One, then don't all customs that divide us either need to unite or fall away? Since man is sinful, it seems to me to be more likely the later than the former."
"Is not Jesus the sacrifice that Abraham was asked to make? God has done that which He asked of Abraham. Just as Abraham had faith and trust in God, so too does God have faith and trust in man."
and
"It is not the alter that sanctifies the sacrifice, but the Holy Spirit. Though many prophets are stoned, who is the sacrificial lamb?"
plus you seem to be writing about this "spirit" (the holy spirit I assume)-what spirit are you talking about, and why do you want us to trust it? Please ellaborate
No disrespect, much love-May Allah guide us all in the quest for understanding! Subhana Allah!
Peace.......
Steve, what I find interesting is....I understood every question. And I was going to say you're asking questions that the muslims cannot answer. They do not know the Christ of the Bible nor do they know the Holy Spirit as evidenced by Yusef's comments. Now, this is in no way ment to be disrespectful to Yusef or any other muslim here....it's just a statement of fact. Much like how I've seen muslims say the non-muslim cannot understand the Qur'an if they do not read arabic. That being said let me address Yusef.
Yusef.....
Could you clarify what you ment by this statement? "This form of worship (circling the Ka'ba during Hajj) is the exact same worship being preformed by the countless number of angels circling the Throne of Allah/God in the Heavens." What I'm not clear on is this: Is circling a form of worship or no? If so can you give an answer more than "it was prescribed" as to why muslims should circle a rock? We understand that muslims feel the place is sacred, but why the rock?
Shamms