07-22-2006, 04:10 PM
Quote:Bismillah:
You are pulling my leg again into the Bible issue. ;)
I have told you before in my previous posts that there are many parts in the Bible which can never be said or even inspired by God, such absurdities one cannot attribute to God.
I don’t know if you want me to talk in details about this subject. But again you will get emotional.
Salam
Wael.
I am not pulling your leg. I find it interesting that when it is supposedly convenient you try to use the bible to prove Islam. Other times you write off what the bible says thus discounting its validity. Which is it? And how do you know, as a Musim, which parts of the bible are valid and which aren't?
You've said before that any part where God speaks in the 1st person can be attributed to the word of God. What about what Jesus said? Assuming he was a Prophet. I posted the passage at the beginning of this thread and you deny that he said it.
<b>What then do you believe Jesus said? How do you dicern which sayings and teachings are valid and which aren't?</b>
We can agree that we each think eachothers Holy book contains absurdities. We've talked about that. You don't think that Jesus died and I don't think that ants talk.
You got offended when I questioned and accused Mohammed, your prophet. I got offended when you deny the death and resurrection of Christ.
Lets recognize eachothers sensitivities and approach the conversation respectfully.
I really just want to know what Muslims believe about Jesus. Specifically, I want to know what portions of Jesus in the bible you believe to be true and which portions you believe to be false.
Quote:And how can u believe that the Bible of today is all God's word when part of it is Paul's writing.
Also it was written many years after the death of Jesus.
And today there are many different versions of the Bible, which one is the correct one?
If he was a God how can he die?
God never dies.
And how can he be man and God at the same time ?
Man is not perfect and he eats, sleeps ..etc. and he is a creation of God !!
And God does not eat or sleep and He is perfect !
And Jesus was born ! so how can he be fully God?!
It really does not make sense at all.
And it seems that there are many contradictions in the Bible and the statement I mentioned to you is one, since you said there are other verses in the Bible that show he knew.
Even Muslims believe things on faith which they cannot explain. The nature of God is largely beyond human understanding. The only tool we have to dicern the nature of God is what He revealed to us in the Holy Bible.
There are no contradictions in the Bible either. Jesus knew he was going to be betrayed, tortured, and crucified. He also knew that he would rise on the 3rd day.
<b>Mark 10:32-34 </b>
32And they were on the way, going up to Jerusalem; and Jesus was going before them: and they were amazed; and they that followed were afraid. And he took again the twelve, and began to tell them the things that were to happen unto him, 33saying, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be delivered unto the chief priests and the scribes; and they shall condemn him to death, and shall deliver him unto the Gentiles: 34and they shall mock him, and shall spit upon him, and shall scourge him, and shall kill him; and after three days he shall rise again.
That is just one instance. Jesus saying, "My God My God why hast thou forsaken me?" doesn't even remotely mean that Jesus didn't know his fate.