Tell me if I am wrong....

[wel_mel_2]

Bismillah:

am sorry WM, but Mohammed and the Quran corrupted the nature of God which had been revealed for centuries. Allah is never found in the bible. There is one God. The one God is the God of Abraham. The Allah which Mohammed introduced to the world is not the same God.

Well, then you have to start your own sect of Christianity, because <b>Allah is indeed the God of all Prophets according to the Bible itself</b>. Just you are not aware that 'Allah' is actually the God of every prophet; the proof is Old Testament itself. <b>In Aramaic God is 'Elah', in Hebrew is 'Eloah' whereas in Arabic is 'Allah', these 3 are actually related to each other. The different in pronounciation is only on slang.</b>


The following is interesting proof from Christian's source to prove what I’ve said. Please read:





This passage is taken from Vine's Complete Exposition Dictionary by W.E. Vine, Merrill F.Unger, William White, Jr., Thomas Nelson Publishers, Nashville, TN, 1996.


This book also has mentioned that Ezra and Prophet Daniel were called their God as "Elah".


You said that <b>ALLAH IS NEVER FOUND IN THE BIBLE</b>. Then please tell the Arab Christian's priests <b>to throw away the Bible in Arabic, use English Bible instead</b> [if "Allah” is not your GOD].

The God is God who sent his only begotten Son to be antonement for his elect

False. Do you know that<b> John 3:16 (the most popular verse in the Bible)</b> was removed by <b>32 scholars of the highest eminence backed by 50 cooperating denominations</b> as a fabrication, as interpolation… now if you open up the <b>RSV </b> you will not find the words<b> “ONLY BEGOTTEN”</b>


Now you go and ask your scholars why they have removed this verse from their Bible and they will tell you <b>it is not to be found in the original text.</b>

The NT works perfectly with the Old Testament. It is in perfect union with the Old Testament

Again, this is false claim. The OT never spoke of trinity, never spoke of atonement through the blood of Jesus, and always refers to God as One not three in one, never claim that Jesus is God as you and other Christians claims, and that’s why the Jews till now rejected your beliefs although they are using the same OT.

I do not believe that Allah gave special permission for Mohammed to have more than four wives. Why? How does that advance the kingdom of God?

will start new thread to explain to you why. Insha'Allah.

I think Mohammed crafted the Quran and the religion of Islam for his own selfish purposes.

Be careful, now you are slandering my Prophet PBUH… are you willing to ask about Islam or to attack the religion of Islam? You may ask without making these nonsensical comments so we keep on having healthy discussion. Thanks.

There is no miracle to the Quran. Any truth to it was stolen and hijacked from the Bible.

<b>Produce your proof if you are truthful</b>. You have not been able to refute a single point about “FACTS ABOUT THE QUR’AN” which i've shown you on the other thread.

The rest of it is largely nonsense and long winded praise to Allah. Other instances in the Quran say that Mohammed was given 'permission" to do this and that. If he was a prophet of God then he would be after God's own heart and he would know and operate within the guidelines given to man from God.

<b>Copy and paste</b>, you have not read the whole Qur’an… <b>don’t lie CC</b>. as Muslims we cant lie specially about our religion.

The biggest stumbling block to my or any other free thinking persons acceptence to Islam is Mohammed himself. The historical facts of Mohammed reveal that he wasn't the saint that Islam holds him up to be. He was after riches and pleasure. These facts are well recorded.

<b>PRODUCE YOUR PROOF IF YOU ARE TRUTHFUL</b>. you just cant stand his wonderful character PBUH so you go to the anti Islamic websites to follow them blindly. Exactly as you are doing by following the concept of Trinity blindly.

Even in the Quran and Haddiths. Did Mohammed keep spoils of war? If so, how much? Why did Allah grant Mohammed 25 wives? When he was 54 he married a 6 year old??? How does that line up with the holy nature of God? We know that at least 27 people were murdered by Mohammed's orders? Did Jesus order the murder of anybody? Mohammed allowed temporary marriage "for three nights" or more, so that soldiers in the field could "marry" prostitutes. How does that line up with the Holy God? The joys and glories of the Islamic "paradise" are tangible and sensual and include sex with virgins -- and young boys. The joys of glories of the Christian heaven is clearly God centered. With believers spending constant union with God and worshiping God always. Not having sexual pleasures.

To be honest with you, I can answer each and every part of the above paragraph to prove to you that Muhammad pbuh was indeed a true prophet of God. but I think you are not seeking an answer, you have learned how to attack. But be careful, I can also show you from your Bible that there are:


- People who give their daughters for sex when they are 3 years old.


- Murder and killing by Prophets of God.


- Jesus order killing those who commit adultery and those who disrespect their parents.


- even temporary marriage is to be found in the Bible


- sex was done in heaven according to the Bible too. Didn’t Adam and Eve were married before they were sent down to earth?


- Shortly I can show you how filthy the Bible is if you intend to attack my faith. So please don’t do that again.


Believe me CC, there is not easier than bashing the Bible. But am not willing to do than unless you start attacking my Prophet, Islam and Allah.


Am not going to repeat what I said earlier… please use your own mind when discussing rather than copy and paste because sometimes when you copy without certain knowledge, it shows how ignorant people are. So please verify the information before you copy and paste.

I wanted to be honest. I appreciate your willingness to teach me about Islam. You have cleared up a lot of misconceptions I have. I don't think all Muslims are evil like many of my countrymen do. I tell you the truth, if you came to my home hungry I would feed you. I mean no offense either. I realize what I said is offensive but sometimes the truth hurts.

But am so very disappointed of you after reading this post. You have copied from anti Islamic sources and bringing up more than 20 different topic in one single post and you are expecting me to believe that you are looking for answers. You are not CC.


What offended me the most is when you started to talk rubbish about my prophet pbuh, feeding me in your house is not going to offend me at all, in fact I will appreciate your generosity and hospitality. But to slander, mock and attack my prophet, then am telling you tham am not going to shut my mouth.


Hope you understand my point and hope we keep our healthy disuccion once again.


Salam


Wael.