Login

wel_mel · 07-06-2003, 05:03 AM

Dear Michelle.

First, allowed me my friend to say welcome to your forum and we are more than happy to receive your questions.

Second, there is nothing to be thankful, this is our duty so pls feel free to ask whatever you wish regarding Islam. And May Allah help us to be able to answer your questions. INshaa Allah.

Before I answer your questions I would like to share with you some verses from the Bible. And I would like you to read carefully and after you finish just let me know. Because I have a questions for you. IS THIS CAN BE THE WORD OF GOD?? IS GOD EASILY CAN MAKE ERRORS??

The verses as follows:

II Samuel 24:1 and I Chronicles 21:11 and compare…

II Chronicles 36:9 and compare with II King 24:8

II Samuel 10:18 compare with I Chronicles 19:18

I King 7:26 compare with II Chronicles 4:5

II Chronicles 9:25 compare with I King 4:26

You may say this is not so important why he is quoting these verses? What he mean?? in fact my friend this is very important because if we believe that bible is the word of GOD so we must believe too that this GOD is free from any Mistakes or Errors. The verses I quoted is only few Errors found in the Bible , later on I will share with you more facts.

Regarding your questions:

[b:4097ea2fc2]Re: Baptism. How does Baptisim fit into Islam. Jesus said, "Go unto all nations and baptize in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit." [/b:4097ea2fc2]

First of all you have to understand that we (Muslims) don’t accept that GOD is three in one or simply we don’t believe in trinity.

Allah has said in the Koran:

[b:4097ea2fc2](4-171) - O people of the book commit no excesses in your religion: nor say of God aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of God, and his word, which he bestowed on Mary and a spirit proceeding from him: so believe in God and his apostles. say not trinity: desist: it will be better for you: for God is one God: glory be to him: (far exalted is he) above having a son. to him belong all things in the heavens and on earth, and enough is God as a disposer of affairs.[/color:4097ea2fc2][/b:4097ea2fc2]

As you can see very clearly GOD never allowed us to say in the name of the father. and of the son and of the holy spirit. So how we can baptize our kids under those names??

Also Jesus said before in the BIBLE which you have it on hand right now. In John 4:21 – 24 Jesus commanded to worship the FATHER (GOD) ALONE and he never said in any part in the Bible AM GOD WORSHIP ME.. Actually Jesus commanded the people to worship the FATHER (GOD) ONLY. and this saying mentioned so many times in the bible if you like I can share with you these verses later.

[b:4097ea2fc2]Re: Where does the "Last Supper" fit? (where Jesus held up bread and wine and said, "Take, eat, this is my body....this is my blood...do this in rememberance of me."[/b:4097ea2fc2]

I wanna ask you please Michelle, is it to remember Jesus you have to drink WINE which is forbidden also in the Bible?? (I will search for the verse later) to tell you my friend that Jesus Christ peace be upon him is always in our heart we (Muslims) don’t need to drink wine to remember him. We simply LOVE JESUS CHRIST without eating bread or drinking wine.

[b:4097ea2fc2](2-136) - Say ye: we believe in God, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Ismail Isaac, Jacob, and the tribes, and that given to Moses and jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: we make no difference between one and another of them: and we bow to God (in Islam)[/color:4097ea2fc2][/b:4097ea2fc2]

[b:4097ea2fc2]Re: Where does Jesus's resurection fit into Islam? I am taught that Jesus was able to rise from the dead because He was God. If that's not so, then why did he rise from the dead? What does this have to do with/for Islam? [/b:4097ea2fc2]

[b:4097ea2fc2]
(4-157) That they said (in boast), we killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the apostle of God; but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:[/color:4097ea2fc2]
[/b:4097ea2fc2]


[b:4097ea2fc2]
(3-55)Behold God said: O Jesus I will take thee and raise thee to myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject faith, to the day of resurrection: then shall ye all return unto me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.[/color:4097ea2fc2]
[/b:4097ea2fc2]


no one in doubt that GOD love Jesus Christ , and for this reason GOD saved him from Jews. Michelle. Can you imagine that your LORD, your GOD, the creator, the most Powerful DIED????????? Jesus is not responsible for our sins, why would God allow him to die.


Also No one saw Jesus die on the cross. Several Bibles and passages say he did not die:


Bible of Barnabas: "The face of Yehuda who led the soldiers to arrest Christ was transfigured into that of Christ who had been rescued by the Angels through the window to the third Heaven."


Also the Bibles of Basilidains, Docetae, The Marcionite Gospel.


Here you have 4 chosen and recognized Bibles, also Luke 20:34-36, 24:36-41, Hebrew 5:7 and John 20:17 support Jesus was saved.


The Bible says that Jesus did not die on the cross, that his loving creator saved Jesus from the cross as confirmed in the Koran.


God loves Jesus.


Would a compassionate, forgiving, merciful God allow his anointed Jesus to die??


* To say he was sacrificed for us, opposes the Bible's teachings (Hosea6:6) and (Matthew 9:13 and 12:7).


* To say he died on the cross, discredits his prophethood (Deuteronomy 13:5) and (21:22-23).


The Jews claimed they killed him to prove he was a false prophet which they still believe. The Koran is here to unite the Jews and Christians and to have them submit their will to God, to be Muslims.


Where is the information on sacrifice coming from?


Paul, who was a Jew and his belief in Jewish sacrifice was transported into Christianity as suggested by a renowned New Testament scholar V. Taylor "The Atonement in the New Testament Teaching." Paul developed the idea by sending letters to the Corinthians, the Romans 4:25, He told the Galatians 6:4., and Ephesians 5:2, read the history yourself. Christianity is the teaching of Paul, not Jesus.


Well I hope I was able to give you proper answers to your questions , and we are always awaiting your reply and your feed back . And I request from my brothers and sisters to correct for me if I have made any mistake


And lastly Michelle . a little advice. Keep on searching. And believe me my friend. GOD will Guide you to his right path if you are looking for him. Inshaa allah.


Salam


Wel_mel

Login
Username:
Password:	Lost Password?
	Remember me