07-11-2006, 10:35 PM
Quote:Bismillah:
If you agree on the term <b>risen or raised</b>, then we have no problem at all CC, because risen or raised does not mean <b>resurrected.</b> Look at my statement in my earlier post please I said:
<b>rise </b> according to oxford dictionary means: <b>come or go up, get up from lying, sitting, or kneelin, reach a higher social or professional position</b>
<b>raise</b>: according to oxford dictionary means: <b>lift or move to a higher position or level, set upright, promote to a higher rank, etc.</b>
<b>Please note</b> that both terms could also mean coming back from death. <b>But if this is what Jesus really meant he would use the term resurrected, not risen and not raised.</b>
Resurrection according to oxford dictionary means: the act of resurrecting <b>or the fact of being resurrected</b>. (the Resurrection) <b>(in Christian belief)</b> Christ’s rising from the dead.
<b>But Jesus did not use this term at all CC</b>. he used risen, which is very close to the term that was used in the Qur’an:.
So if you say he was risen, then you just have to agree with the Qur'an and the Islamic view on this matter: the Qur'an says:
“That they said (in boast), ‘We killed Jesus Christ the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah’ – But they killed him not, Nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not – Nay Allah <b>raised him up unto Himself</b>; and Allah is Exalted in Power Wise.” [Al-Qur’an 4:157-158]
Salam
Wael.
I don't know which Greek words were useds and the context and their meaning.
What about the verses which say that Jesus died? The fact that he died taken with the words (risen) would indicate resurrection would they noy?
<b>Mark 15:39</b>
And when the centurion, who stood there in front of Jesus, heard his cry and saw how he died, he said, "Surely this man was the Son of God!"
Mark 15 42
42It was Preparation Day (that is, the day before the Sabbath). So as evening approached, 43Joseph of Arimathea, a prominent member of the Council, who was himself waiting for the kingdom of God, went boldly to Pilate and asked for Jesus' body. 44Pilate was surprised to hear that he was already dead. Summoning the centurion, he asked him if Jesus had already died. 45When he learned from the centurion that it was so, he gave the body to Joseph. 46So Joseph bought some linen cloth, took down the body, wrapped it in the linen, and placed it in a tomb cut out of rock. Then he rolled a stone against the entrance of the tomb. 47Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of Joses saw where he was laid.
Romans 8:34
Who is he that condemns? Christ Jesus, who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us.
etc.etc.