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Why Islam?
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Quote:Bismillah


This says:


"There is only one God


The Father is God


Jesus is God


The Holy Spirit is God


The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are three distinct Persons."


There is only one lawyer.


Steve is a lawyer


John is a lawyer


and Betty is a lawyer


Steve, John, and Betty are all distinct persons"


This just says to me, that one can define God as one wants as long as you state "God is One" first. To me that is like the phrase "no offense." As long as I put that before any statement then I feel justified saying what I want. "No offense really, but your child is the ugliest I have ever seen." Of course this is an extreme to make a point.


This is not logical. God gave us reason and commanded us to use our gifts, so we are supposed to suspend reason? Look at the Roman, Greek, and Celtic pre-christian gods. Seems very similar. Seems interesting to me that the concept of trinity was picked up quickest by these people.


God is not a man, just as the carpentar is not a table.

Sorry you don't understand.


The nature of God in three persons was first revealed as early as Genesis.


"Let us make man in our image...."


“God said, ‘Behold, the man has become like one of us…"


Obvioulsy there is at least a duel nature to God.


We also know that Jesus was present during the creation.


<b>“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God…. No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the Father's side, has made him known.” – John 1:1</b>


<i>I want to pause just a moment to discuss the verses above. The Greek word for God is theos. In John 1:1, we read that the Word (Jesus) was with theos and was indeed theos. Jesus was (and is) God! This is a very powerful statement! The word theos is used not only in John 1:1, but also in verse 18 and in John 20:28. Theos is used in the New Testament in reference to Jehovah/Yahweh God. Theos is also used in reference to Jesus. We’re beginning to see the plurality found within the one God. </i>


<b>"You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they were created and have their being." – Revelation 4:11 (the words of the 24 elders to Jesus).</b>


<b>“…Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.” – Acts 20:28 </b>


<i>Once again, in the verses above Jesus is referred to as theos. In Acts 20:28, we know that Jesus shed His blood for the church, and as one person of the triune God, this action is the action of God. Now let’s look at some common compound references to Jesus:</i>


<b>“…the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ” – Titus 2:13</b>


<b>“…To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours” – 2 Peter 1:1 </b>


<i>In the passages above, both “God” and “Savior” are used in reference to Jesus Christ. There is no division of the clause. Scholar Robert Reymond writes, “The two nouns [‘God’ and ‘Savior’] both stand under the regimen of the single definitive article preceding ‘God,’ indicating…that they are to be construed corporately, not separately, or that they have a single referent.”[5] In other words, attempts to divide this clause into a reference to God and a separate reference to Jesus as Savior flies against the Greek grammatical construct. These verses provide additional powerful and clear evidence that Jesus is Jehovah/Yahweh God. Let’s now turn our attention to more verses that reveal Jesus to be Jehovah/Yahweh.</i>


<b>“That if you confess with your mouth, ‘Jesus is Lord,’ and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved…. for, ‘Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.’” – Romans 10:9,13. Note: Paul reveals Jesus to be the same “Lord” referred to in Joel 2:32, which he quotes. In Joel 2:32, “LORD” is Jehovah/Yahweh. </b>


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Why Islam? - by saima - 07-09-2006, 08:10 PM
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