06-14-2006, 07:52 PM
Quote:Bismillah
Curious Christian
I misunderstood every thing,many times I try to understand but I failed.Apart of what the old or the new Testament said,can you Curious Christian explain it to me simply as you believe and understand.
Considering that the God is the creator of the universe,did you believe there is only one God or more?
Did you believe that this God has a father or a son like us,and what is their nature?
What the following words mean to you(with respect to this God):the word,the lord, the father ,the son,the spirit,the co-creator.
There is one God. A God in three persons.
Consider this analogy.
I am a man.
I am also a son (the son of my father).
I am also a father (the father of my daughter).
I am all three.
The biblical defense, outlined at the start of this thread shows that the concept of the triune God is based in scripture which is of divine origin.
First you must accept and understand that Jesus is God which is something that Muslims reject.
Some basis for that:
<i>1. The Prologue of John, which describes in a most profound manner the divine Logos which existed prior to any creation, was with God in a unique manner, and was God or divine Himself.</i>
2. The Book of Revelation, in which the Lamb (clearly Christ) is given the same worship in heaven as the One on the Throne (clearly, the Father).
3. The Gospel of St. John, in which Jesus uses the expression, “I am” in such a manner that it becomes a divine self-reference.
4. Professions and gestures in the Gospels which can only be said of God, and are applied to Jesus; e.g., the blind man who falls before Jesus in a posture of worship (Jn 9), and the profession of Thomas, “My Lord and my God” (Jn 20).
5. The NT use of the designation “Lord” to identify or address Jesus. Especially when used in the NT epistles, this title is used with full meaning that Christ is divine. The Greek for Lord, (Kurios), was used in the Septuagint as a designation for God.
6. The title, “Son of God” said of Jesus repeatedly in the Gospels (a true son is necessarily the same essence as his father, lest someone accuse us of being the offspring of rabbits or baboons).
7. The address of Elizabeth to Mary in which she is referred to as the "Mother of my Lord."
8. The many signs worked by Jesus, some of which clearly associated Him with divinity, such as walking on water.
9. The beautiful hymn found in Paul’s letter to the Philippians (2:5-11) which describes the self-emptying of Christ and subsequent glorification.
10. Extensive texts such the following, from Hebrews:
1:1 In many and various ways God spoke of old to our fathers by the prophets; 1:2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world. 1:3 He reflects the glory of God and bears the very stamp of his nature, upholding the universe by his word of power. When he had made purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, 1:4 having become as much superior to angels as the name he has obtained is more excellent than theirs. 1:5 For to what angel did God ever say, "Thou art my Son, today I have begotten thee"? Or again, "I will be to him a father, and he shall be to me a son"? 1:6 And again, when he brings the first-born into the world, he says, "Let all God's angels worship him." 1:7 Of the angels he says, "Who makes his angels winds, and his servants flames of fire." 1:8 But of the Son he says, "Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever, the righteous scepter is the scepter of thy kingdom.
God in three distinct persons. All were present at the laying of the foundations of our universe. Genisis even says, "We created man in our image" not "my image."
26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.