06-12-2006, 12:27 AM
Bismillah:
Quote:<b>"According to the early Christians' manuscripts, Jesus never got crucified, and trinity is a lie."</b>
That isn't true. As I've said before, the earliest manuscripts in existence include the death of Christ on the cross and the resurrection. Even if you don't include Mark 16: 9-20 Jesus is still crucified and resurrected. SO, if you can show me legitamate early manuscripts, I guess it would have to be the earliest ones, which don't include the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ I'd love to see them.
i always try to bring some evedince to support my claims.
if you watch film, <b>"Banned from the Bible"</b> on the History Channel. According to this documentary film, some of Saint Peter's apocalypse were banned from the current Bible, and <b>these Epistles contain what Islam claims </b> - that Jesus didn't get crucified on the cross and it only appeared that he was. This banned part also says that Jesus was standing next to the cross laughing. These are the parts of the Bible that only few people in the world know about.
According to the documentary film, the apocalypse was very popular among Christians during the 2nd century. They believed <b>"it was spiritually inspired" by GOD Almighty to Saint Peter</b>. They actually had doubts about "John's apocalypse", which is known today as "the Book of Revelation". Interestingly also, this apocalypse says that after GOD Almighty fills both Heaven and Hell with inhabitants from Mankind, and the people of Hell get tortured for a long period of time, the People of Heaven will ask and Pray to GOD Almighty to Forgive the people of Hell. GOD Almighty will then eventually listen to their Prayers, and will order the "Gates and the Steel Bars of Hell" to be opened and allow the people of Hell to enter Heaven for Good.
You can purchase the documentary film, "Banned from the Bible", at History Channeland watch it for yourself.
here are some quotes of Peter's Apocalypse that confirm Islam's claims:
The Savior said to me, "He whom you saw on the tree, glad and laughing, this is the living Jesus. But this one into whose hands and feet they <b>drive the nails is his fleshly part, which is the substitute being put to shame, the one who came into being in his likeness</b>. But look at him and me."
But I, when I had looked, said "Lord, no one is looking at you. Let us flee this place."
But he said to me, "I have told you, <b>"Leave the blind alone!". </b> And you, see how they do not know what they are saying. For the son of their glory instead of my servant, they have put to shame."
And I saw someone about to approach us resembling him, <b>even him who was laughing on the tree</b>. And he was filled with a Holy Spirit, and he is the Savior. And there was a great, ineffable light around them,and the multitude of ineffable and invisible angels blessing them. And when I looked at him, the one who gives praise was revealed.
And he said to me, "Be strong, for you are the one to whom these mysteries have been given, to know them through revelation, that he whom they crucified is the first-born, and the home of demons, and the stony vessel, in which they dwell, of Elohim, of the cross, which is under the Law. But he who stands near him is the living Savior, the first in him, whom they seized and released, who stands joyfully looking those who did him violence,while they are divided among themselves. Therefore he laughs at their lack of perception, knowing that they are born blind. So then the one susceptible to suffering shall come, since the body is the substitute.But what they released was my incorporeal body. But I am the intellectual Spirit filled with radiant light.He whom you saw coming to me is our intellectual Palermo , which unites the perfect light with my Holy Spirit."
Read on :
"But many others, who oppose the truth and are the messengers of error, will set up their error and their law against these pure thoughts of mine, as looking out from one perspective, thinking that good and evil are from one source. They do business in my word. And they will propagate harsh fate. The race of immortal souls will go in it in vain, until my Parousia. For they shall come out of them, and my forgiveness of their transgressions into which they fell through the adversaries, whose ransom I got from the slavery in which they were, to give them freedom that they may create an imitation remnant in the name of a dead man, who is Hermas, of the first-born of unrighteousness, in order that the light which exists may not believed by the little ones. But those of this sort are the worker who will be cast into the outer darkness, away from the sons of light. For neither will they enter, nor do they permit those who are going up to their approval for their release."
It is noteworthy that many other gospels contain similar messages. You really need to understand and know that in the first century,
1) EVERY CHURCH HAD ITS OWN DOCTRINE
2) EVERY CHURCH HAD ITS OWN SCRIPTURES.
Not until the first council did the people in Rome set what we see today as the standard christian theology. All those other early churches have been persecuted and killed for their different views.
Salam
wael