06-07-2006, 02:33 AM
Bismillah:
Quote:OK...I got a lunch break real quick...
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<b>"Light of the Moon is its own light.</b>
<b>6- the Bible says in Genesis, Ch. 1, Verses No.16, that…‘God created two lights the greater light, the Sun to rule the day, and the lesser light the Moon, to rule the night. The actual translation, if you go to the Hebrew text, it is ‘lamps’…‘Lamps having lights of its own.’ And that you will come to know better, if you read both the Verses – Genesis, Ch. No.1, Verse. 16, as well as 17. Verse No.17 says…‘And Almighty God placed them in the firmament, to give light to the earth… To give light to the earth.’ Indicating, that Sun and the Moon has its own light - which is in contradiction with established scientific knowledge that we have."</b>
I don't know that that is a contradiction to science at all. The moon does provide light in the night-time sky albeit from the reflection of the sun. We do have light during the night as a result of the moon's position.
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<b>The heavens have got pillars</b>
8- the Bible says in Job, Ch. 26, Verse 11, that…‘The pillars of the Heaven will tremble.’ Qur’an says in Surah Luqman, Ch. 31, Verse No.10, that…‘The Heavens are without any pillars - Don`t you see? Don’t you see the Heavens are without any pillars? - Bible says heaven have got pillars.
Uh...I guess you can assume that the Qur'an is correct on this issue. But who knows if the Heavens have pillars or not. Maybe the Qur'an is wrong and the bible is correct. The verse in Job is referring to Paradise and nobody has been there who has come back to tell us about it.
A footnote in my bible says the following:
"Not that heaven has pillars to uphold it, but he speaks by a similitude as though he would say heaven itself is not able to abide his reproach."
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<b>9- Not only do the Heavens have got pillars - Bible says in the first book of Samuel, Ch. No.2 Verses No.8, as well as the book of Job Ch. No.9, Verse No.6, and the book of Psalms Ch. No.75, Verse No.3, that… ‘Even the earth have got pillars.’</b>
The farthest scientist have ever drilled into the earth's surface don't come close to revealing the nature of what is contained in the earth. Maybe we'll discover more the future to lend insight on what was meant here.
What He is doing is declaring the infirmity of man, by the mighty and incomprehensible power that is in God, showing what he could do if he would set forth his power. "Shaking Pillars" is a saying meaning to destroy, make tremble. God is the Creator and thus has dominon over His creation.
I don't know that either term "pillar" could be taken literally.
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<b>God said… ‘You can have all plants and all vegetation, including the poisonous plants?’</b>
The Bible says in the book of Genesis, Ch. No.1, Verse No.29, that… ‘God has given you all the herbs bearing seeds, the trees bearing fruits - those that bear seed, as meat for you.’ New International Version says… ‘The seed bearing plants, and the trees bearing fruits bearing seeds are food for you, all of them.’ Today, even a layman knows that there are several poisonous plants like wild berries, stritchi, datura, plants containing alkaloid, polyander, bacaipoid - that which if you ingest, if you eat there are high possibilities you may die. How come the Creator of the universe and the human beings, does not know, that if you have these plants, you will die.
Wel mel, you know that this was a description of paradise before the fall. The conditions of nature were different. You also see that the spilling of blood and eating of flesh was not brought on until after the fall.
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<b>The scientific test the falsification test, of Mark, Ch. No. 16, Verse No. 17 and 18.</b>
11- The Bible has a scientific test how to identify a true believer. It is mentioned in the Gospel of Mark, Ch. No.16, Verse No.17 and 18 - It says that… ‘There will be signs for true believers and among the signs - In my name they shall cast out devils, they shall speak foreign tongues, new tongues, they shall take up serpents - And if they drink deadly poison, they shall not be harmed - And when they place their hand over the sick, they shall be cured.’ This is a scientific test which no Christian could ever pass.
"The evidences of the truth of the gospel are so full, that those who receive it not, may justly be upbraided with their unbelief. Our blessed Lord renewed his choice of the eleven as his apostles, and commissioned them to go into all the world, to preach his gospel to every creature. Only he that is a true Christian shall be saved through Christ. Simon Magus professed to believe, and was baptized, yet he was declared to be in the bonds of iniquity: see his history in Ac 8:13-25. Doubtless this is a solemn declaration of that true faith which receives Christ in all his characters and offices, and for all the purposes of salvation, and which produces its right effect on the heart and life; not a mere assent, which is a dead faith, and cannot profit. The commission of Christ's ministers extends to every creature throughout the world, and the declarations of the gospel contain not only truths, encouragements, and precepts, but also most awful warnings. Observe what power the apostles should be endued with, for confirming the doctrine they were to preach. These were miracles to confirm the truth of the gospel, and means of spreading the gospel among nations that had not heard it." - Matthew Henry
The apostles DID perform miracles in the name of Jesus Christ.
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<b>The rainbow</b>
12- Bible says in Genesis, Ch. No.9, Verse No.13 to 17, that… ‘After God, at the time of Noah submerged the world by flood, and after the flood’ subsided, He said… ‘I put up a rainbow in the sky as a promise to the humankind never to submerge the world again, by water. To the unscientific person it may be quite good… ‘Oh rainbow is a sign of Almighty God, never to submerge the world by flood again.’ But today we know very well, that rainbow is due to the refraction of sunlight, with rain or mist. Surely there must have been thousands of rainbows before the time of Noah, peace be upon him. To say it was not there before Noah’s time you have to assume that the law of refraction did not exist - which is unscientific.
It did not rain before Noah. Noah was the first time it rained. Before Noah a firmament was in the Heavens which gave water to the earth. We know this from the Creation account.
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<b>POINT NUMBER THIRTEEN:</b>
Sprinkle the house with blood to disinfect against plague of leprosy?
13- the Bible says in the book of Leveticus, Ch. No.14, Verse No.49 to 53 - it gives a novel way for disinfecting a house from plague of leprosy… disinfecting a house from plague of leprosy. It says that… ‘Take two birds, kill one bird, take wood, scale it - and the other living bird, dip it in water… and under running water - later on sprinkle the house 7 times with it.
You know blood is a good media of germs, bacteria, as well as toxin
POINT NUMBER FOURTEEN:
A woman remains unclean for double the period, if she gives birth to a daughter, as compared to a son.
14- in the book of Leveticus, Ch. No.12, Verse No.1 to 5, and we know medically, that after a mother gives birth to a child, the post-partal period, it is unhygienic. To say it is ‘unclean’, Religiously - I have got no objection. But Leviticus, Ch. No.12 Verse No.1 to 5, says that… ‘After a woman gives birth to a male child, she will be unclean for 7 days, and the period of uncleanliness will continue for 33 days more. It she give birth to a female child, she will be unclean for two weeks, and the period of uncleanliness will continue for 66 days. In short, if a woman gives birth to a male child… ‘a son’, she is unclean for 40 days. If she gives birth to a female child… ‘a daughter’, she is unclean for 80 days. I would like anyone to explain to me scientifically, how come a woman remains unclean for double the period, if she gives birth to a female child, as compared to a male child.
POINT NUMBER FIFTEEN:
How do you find out the bitter water test for adultery?
15- The Bible also has a very good test for adultery - How to come to know a woman has committed adultery, in the book of Numbers, Ch. no.5 Verse No..11 to 31. I’ll just say in brief. It says that… ‘The priest should take holy water in a vessel, take dust from the floor, and put it into the vessel - And that is the bitter water ‘And after cursing it, give it to the woman And if the woman has committed adultery, after she drinks it, the curse will enter her body, the stomach will swell, the thigh will rot, and she shall be cursed by the people. If the woman has not committed adultery, she will remain clean and she will bear the seed. A novel method of identifying whether a woman has committed adultery or not. Unscientific
Those are all OT laws. It is strange to us today for sure. Christ fullfilled the Law so that we don't have to anymore.
Ok am not going to comment on your answers, although there are 4 or 5 points make no sense at all. However, until now you didn’t answer the part of creation which is to me and to other scientists is obvious error.
One error is sufficient to prove that the whole Bible is not God's word.
Salam
Wael.