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Jesus in the Quran?
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Bismillah


Curious, let us try to get back to your originl quest, which is how Jesus is mentioned in Quran.


I think my brothers and sisters did reply to you, however, u raised one point of whether or not he was crucified. In Islam this is a fundamental issue. He was not. Because Allah Willed to plot back against those who plotted against him.


<b>"And because of their saying (in sarcastic boast), "We killed Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah," - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of Jesus was put over another man,
and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they did not kill him"</b>


(Quran 4:157)


The other Ayah that explains this situation is:


"<b>And they (disbelievers) plotted [to kill Jesus alayhis-salaam], and Allah planned too. And Allah is the Best of the planners</b>
And they (disbelievers) plotted [to kill Jesus alayhis-salaam], and Allah planned too. And Allah is the Best of the planners.* .*


And (remember) when Allah said: "O Jesus! I will take you and raise you to Myself and clear you [of the forged statement that Jesus is Allah's son] of those who disbelieve, and I will make those who follow you (Monotheists, who worship none but Allah) superior to those who disbelieve
[in the Oneness of Allah, or disbelieve in some of His Messengers, e.g. Muhammad, Jesus, Moses, etc., or in His Holy Books, e.g. the Torah, the Gospel, the Qur’an] till the Day of Resurrection. Then you will return to Me and I will judge between you in the matters in which you used to dispute." (Quran 3:55)


With all due respect to the translator who out of sinere piety and much respect to Allah didnt use the word Allah Plotted and Allah Is the best One Who makes plots. If we want to be more precise, the first Ayah say they cunned against, and Allah Cunned back and Allah Is the best Cunner.


I dont want really to get off topic, but this part is worth explaining, some people avoid to explain or translate this part as such in fear of being criticised of how can Allah Describe Himself with the adjective of cunning. Well Allah Does so to those who desrve it, Allah Does not use this against those who dont deserve it. In short, there is nothing that Allah Is incapable of fighting back against, even cunning. Thus if u carefully review the Ayah, they cunned against Jesus to kill him, will Allah Stand still and let His Prophet face this destiney, no way, Allah Cunned back, not only that Allah Saved him in a miraculous manner by rasing him even before the scheduled time of crucifixion, but made someone else to resemble him and be put on the cross in a very mocking situation to those who thought they can plot against Allah's Messenger prayer and peace be upon him.


Curious, pls note the first Ayah that explains that he was not even put on the cross but rather Allah rescued him which is then futher explained on the second Aysh i posted as that Allah Raised him, but not after being put on the cross. No before.


The whole situation was a plot from Allah against the jews, but unfortunately it was misused by those who gathered during a meeting in I think 14 th century to decide the being of Jesus. During that meetings held by a Roman emperor, an Egyptian monk was present, who was still influenced by the polytheistic beliefs in the Egyptina dogma calling for reincarnation and multiple gods. He was the one who carefully inserted the concept of Jesus divinity into the religion.


I m sorry if this post is getting long, however, to sum this up look how Allah Describes the invented facts about jesus prayer and peace be upon him (again pls note this is the Islamic stance thru Quran as u requested):


<b>"And (remember) when Allah will say (on the Day of Resurrection): "O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you say unto men: 'Worship me and my mother as two gods besides Allah?' " He will say: "Glory be to You! It was not for me to say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would surely have known it. You know what is in my inner self though I do not know what is in Yours, truly, You, only You, are the All Knower of all that is hidden and unseen."
(</b> Quran 5:116)

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Jesus in the Quran? - by Curious Christian - 04-15-2006, 10:38 PM
Jesus in the Quran? - by umm Zachariah - 04-18-2006, 09:04 AM
Jesus in the Quran? - by soulperson - 04-18-2006, 11:41 AM
Jesus in the Quran? - by Curious Christian - 04-19-2006, 02:22 AM
Jesus in the Quran? - by umm Zachariah - 04-19-2006, 08:07 AM
Jesus in the Quran? - by soulperson - 04-19-2006, 11:23 AM
Jesus in the Quran? - by Curious Christian - 04-19-2006, 10:50 PM
Jesus in the Quran? - by Curious Christian - 04-19-2006, 10:57 PM
Jesus in the Quran? - by umm Zachariah - 04-20-2006, 09:18 AM
Jesus in the Quran? - by Curious Christian - 04-20-2006, 11:44 AM
Jesus in the Quran? - by arclight - 04-20-2006, 06:51 PM
Jesus in the Quran? - by Curious Christian - 04-20-2006, 09:35 PM
Jesus in the Quran? - by umm Zachariah - 04-21-2006, 08:28 AM
Jesus in the Quran? - by wel_mel_2 - 04-29-2006, 12:34 AM
Jesus in the Quran? - by Curious Christian - 04-29-2006, 07:18 PM
Jesus in the Quran? - by wel_mel_2 - 04-30-2006, 01:42 AM
Jesus in the Quran? - by Curious Christian - 04-30-2006, 01:49 PM
Jesus in the Quran? - by wel_mel_2 - 05-01-2006, 02:01 AM
Jesus in the Quran? - by Faris_Mee - 05-01-2006, 09:10 AM
Jesus in the Quran? - by Muslimah - 05-01-2006, 12:04 PM
Jesus in the Quran? - by Curious Christian - 05-02-2006, 03:30 PM
Jesus in the Quran? - by Muslimah - 05-02-2006, 05:43 PM
Jesus in the Quran? - by PUPPET - 05-03-2006, 11:45 AM
Jesus in the Quran? - by Curious Christian - 05-03-2006, 02:59 PM
Jesus in the Quran? - by PUPPET - 06-20-2006, 01:28 PM

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