04-03-2006, 03:43 PM
Quote:so you dont trust in the God of the OT?
<b>There is only one God, so the God of the OT and the God of the NT are the same God. But I am much more familiar with the God of the NT because I read it more</b>
Quote:if you call him the son of God then you have no right to worship him, because the son is not greater than the father. Jesus plainly said THE FATHER IS GREATER THAN I.
<b>I never said I worship him over the Father. In fact I pray to the Father, but in the name of the Son.</b>
Quote:the same Jesus pbuh also said THINK NOT THAT I HAVE COME TO DESTROY THE LAW OR THE PROPHETS I HAVE COME NOT TO DESTROY BUT TO FULFIL. so the <b>rule or the law </b> of the OT was confirmed by Jesus <b>that it was not canceld</b>. in fact he said:
Matthew 5:18
For verily I say unto you, <b>Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law</b>, <b>till all be fulfilled</b>.
<b>As you indicated He came to fulfill, and he did fulfill, both in things he did while on the earth, and the last prophecy he fulfilled was being resurected.</b>
Quote:i dont know what you are trying to say here. i said that this Melchisedec POSSESS THE SAME QUALITY AS GOD according to the Bible AND YET YOU DONT CONSIDER HIM AS GOD AND WORSHIP ANOTHER ONE.
<b>If you wish to worship Melchisedec, feel free.</b>
Quote:i think you are not aware of what Jesus will tell you on <b>that day</b>. you are not aware of what he is going to tell ANYONE who used to call him LORD or used to worship him. listen to what Jesus said in the Bible about such people:
Matthew 7
22 <b>Many</b> will say to me in that day, <b>Lord, Lord</b>, have we not prophesied <b>in thy name</b>? and <b>in thy name </b> have cast out devils? and <b>in thy name </b> done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, <b>I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity</b>.
AMAZING, here Jesus in plain English saying that those who is calling him LORD are not of him and on the day of Judgment he will tell them I NEVER KNEW YOU. those who prophesied IN HIS NAME, and cast out the devils in HIS NAME and have done many miracles in HIS NAME are going to be ignored by Jesus ON THAT DAY.
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<b>You frequently quote things out of context. Let us look at Matthew 7:21. "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.</b>
What he is saying is not that people should not call him Lord, but that they should not worship him, and do things in his name, but that they should seek to do the will of his Father who is in heaven.
I have said that I worship God, and that when I pray to God I do so in the name of the Son, but I do not prophesy in his name, and in his name drive out demons and perform many miracles. In fact I do not have the power to prophisize at all, nor to drive out demons, nor to perform any miracles.
Quote:what you mean that you have a personal relationship with Jesus pbuh? you mean he came to you in person and talked to you about something that you would like to share with us?
<b>I have never seen him, nor heard his voice, but I have talked to him, and have felt his presence.</b>
Quote:i have nothing else to say Don :)
<b>Nor have I</b>
I think we are just wasting both of our time to go on, so I doubt I will be back in this thread, but I do thank you for answering some questions I had about Islam.
I thought you had some serious questions about Chistianity, and have tried to answer them, but I now wonder if you really wanted the answers, or just wanted to confront me on some things.
In any event, I wish you well.