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Penalty of converting to Christianity
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Bismillah:




Quote:<b>You are right. I don't worship Melchisedec, or Melchizedek as I spell it, as I do Jesus. I know that Jesus is the Son of God, and I have accepted him as my personal Saviour.</b>

i have already proved to you from your own Bible that Jesus is not the savior and that GOD ALONE is our savior. So if you believe in him as your "PERSONAL" savior then im going to consider it as a "PERSONAL" matter, but that doesn’t have anything to do with what your Bible said.




Quote:There are some, particularly Mormans (The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints) who say that Melchizedek was Jesus. According to LDS tradition, Melchizedek's blessing of Abraham at Salem is a priesthood authority whose keys were restored to Joseph Smith along with the keys of Aaron's priesthood.


Some rabbinic (Jewish) scholars identify Melchizedek with Noah's son Shem. The account of Melchizedek given in the Dead Sea Scrolls has also divided scholars into two camps, one that touts his existence as a mortal man and another that identifies him with the archangel Michael. ]

im sorry, are you Mormon?


if Melchisedec was Jesus, then why the 'authors' of the Bible invented another name and attribute it to Jesus? why they just didnt call him Melchisedec all the way? to be honest with you, im not surprised with this kind of interpretation. in Christianity, the wine is called blood, the bread is called flesh, man is called divine, resurruction is called TEMPLE, and now Jesus is called Melchisedec. amazing.


Don, this is yet another very weak evidence that you have brought. Mormon!!! i've never seen any Christian who is using the Mormon authority to clarify something found in the Bible!!! this Church "The Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints" have twisted the 'words of God' and came up with another Gospel called "The Book of Mormon ANOTHER TESTAMENT OF JESUS CHRIST" and almost ALL Christians denominations have rejected their words. believe me Don, you have no idea about those Mormons, they totally go agains the teaching of the Bible and i might start another thread to show you some examples. Insha'Allah.




Quote:<b>Neither Adam, Melchisedec/Melchizedek, the archangel Michael, Noah's son Shem, Aaron, nor Joseph Smith died on the cross to pay for my sins. I know the Quran said that Jesus did not die on the cross, but Muhammed was not there, and he probably got the story about Jesus "appearing to die" from some lying Jew that did not want to admit that they had crucified him. After Jesus was buried God raised him from the grave, in fulfillment of prophecy, and your Quran is right he was then raised up to Heaven alive</b>

Not only the Qur'an which said that, the Bible also said that every man shall be put to death FOR HIS OWN SINS. So why God changed his mind and allowed Jesus to die for our sins? And remember that was against Jesus’ will.


And also, didn’t Jesus say <b>"And when you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive him, so that your Father in heaven may forgive you your sins."</b> so the condition of being forgiven by God is to forgive others and not by the death of Jesus. again this is what your Bible said in Mark 11. Also the same commandment was repeated in Luke 11.


as regarding to Muhammad pbuh that he <b>was not there </b> to tell us about what happened to Jesus pbuh, now i want you to tell me <b>who was there with Mary </b> when the Angel Gabriel visited her to announce the birth of her child Jesus pbuh? If you don’t believe of what Muhammad pbuh said regarding Jesus pbuh then why should you believe in what Mary said regarding the Angel Gabriel? No body was there in both occasions!!!


Salam


Wael.

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