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Penalty of converting to Christianity
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Bismillah:


Salam Don,




Quote:<b>You are very close to understanding why he had to send his Son. </b>

i really dont know how did you come to this conclusion that i understand what you are talking about !!!




Quote:As you indicated, as God he canot make a mistake but the people He created were being lured into Sin by Satan, who He created as well. He made compacts with the people, such as were done with Moses, and the people were not following those compacts. As you said, He is the source of Justice and Mercy, but since He cannot make a mistake He could not just say" "Well that compact was too hard, here is an easier one, and if you follow it, you will still have eternal life". But as John 3:16 says: "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." In other words He did not change the rules; but He did send His Son, who was totally without sin, and allowed His Son to take upon Himself the penalty of everyone's sin. All they had to do was accept this gift from God's Son.

interesting verse... if we just believe in the son then we shall <b>inherit eternal life
,. </b> Ok now I would like to share with you an <b>obvious contradiction </b> between John 3:16, Luke 10:25-28 <b>and Matthew 19:16-17.</b>, John 3:16 says:


"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten, Son, <b>that whosoever believeth in him
</b> <b>should not perish, but have everlasting life</b>."



Now let’s read Luke 10:25-28:


And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to <b>inherit eternal life</b>?
He said unto him, what is written in the law? How readest Thou? And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbor as thyself. And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and Thou shalt live.



<b>These verses tell us that the inheritance of eternal life is for anyone who believes and worships no other God, but the One True God. Luke 10:25-28 agrees with Matthew 19:16-17 which says; </b>


"And behold, one came and said to him (Jesus), Good teacher, what good things shall I do that I may have eternal life?
So he (Jesus) said to him, ‘Why do you call me good? – No one is good but One that is, God.
<b>But if you want to enter into eternal life, keep the commandments."
</b>





<b>NOT TO BELIEVE IN ME
</b> , Jesus said KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS and you will inherit eternal life... plain and clear. no interpretation needed.






Quote:

<b>If God is Supreme, then who can say what he can or should do? If by the act of begetting being a physical act you are referring to sex, then I will agree with you, however he did not have sex with the Virgin Mary. He sent his seed into her womb by saying that it be done. Our Holy Book says he sent the Holy Spirit to put the seed in her, but it was not through the act of copulation.
</b>



no one can question God of what he do, but this same God has given us intellect to think and judge right from wrong, this same God also revealed His qualities and attributes to us, and one of His quality that He have no son or anyone equal to him, so we have the right to say that HE CANNOT HAVE A SON, and if you still insist that Jesus is the son of God then i will say that Adam is also the son of God, Israel is the first born of God, David is also the begotten son of God, i can show you plenty of people who are 'sons' of God, there is no verse where it show that Jesus SPECIAL son of God. so no point to argue Don.




Salam




Wael.



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