03-28-2006, 08:56 PM
Quote:As for the punishment promised by Allah to those who reject the faith, as u can clearly see from the Ayahs u yourself quoted, the punishment is in the hereafter.
<b>It is only right that punishment promised by Allah be in the hereafter. As you have indicated, a person may repent later in life. But if you, a mere human, tell him he must repent now, or you will kill him, you are either forcing him to pretend to repent (which may satisfy you, but surely Allah will know it is only a false repentence), or you will kill him, and thereby deny him the ability to truly repent in his own time</b>
Quote:As for a Muslim to accept jesus as savior, this is totally against Islamic teachings,
<b>I will assure you that the Christian faith does not teach that one should embrace Judiasm or Islam, yet many do, and we don't kill them if they do. And I strongly suspect that Jewish teaching does not encourage or even condone a Jew becoming a Christian or a Muslim, but I have never heard of them killing someone for doing so.</b>
What happens to them in the hereafter is up to God.
Quote:for no one and I stress no one can shoulder someone else's sins or be accountable before Allah on behalf of someone else. No not even Prophet Mohamed salla Allah a`lyhee wa sallam.
<b>I understand that not even your Prophet could shoulder someone else's sins or be accountable before Allah on behalf of someone else, but he, just like you and me, was a human. Jesus was the Son of God, and as such was without sin, and as John 3:16 says: "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." Would you deny that Allah could send his Son to earth? Would you deny that if he did, and if that Son allowed himself to be killed to redeam the sins of everyone that accepted him as their Saviour, that when such a person stood before Allah at Judgement Day, and the Son of Allah spoke up and said I died so that this man might have eternal life, that Allah would not honor the wishes of His Son?</b>
Quote:Allah may He Glorified Say:"<b>And no bearer of burdens shall bear another's burden, and if one heavily laden calls another to (bear) his load, nothing of it will be lifted even though he be near of kin</b>
<b>I believe that means that I cannot accept your burden, nor can you accept mine. I don't think it applies to the Son of Allah</b>
To avoid making this post unwieldy I will postpone a discussion of the hadeeth until we determine what the Quran says and does not say, and what it means and does not mean, and whether or not God (Allah) can send his Son to earth.