02-25-2006, 02:37 PM
Bismillah
Quote:ah, but is the story of the Prophet Ayyoob an example of what to do, or an example of what not to do?
In the Old Testament, Moses kills one one the guards who mistreats the Hebrews. Because this is known, he flees. Yet God still chooses him to return and free the Jews from their bondage. Some would say that because this violence is in the Bible, therefore it is "okay" to be violent. I look at it differently, the Scriptures are full of examples (confessions really) of the mistakes that people have made, and they are documented so we can learn from them.
Now I underlined Moses kills, here we differ in the way of killing. In The Holy Quran, it tells the story of Moses(PBUH) killing the guard, but Allah(SWT) mentioned the truth of how the guard was killed, it was not by violence, but by mistake, since Moses(PBUH) was strong and had strong muscles, he just pushed the gaurd with no INTENTION of killing, that made the gaurd fall down his head struck a stone or any hard object and he died due to that hit, and not because Prophet Moses(PBUH), did have any intention of killing or murder.
Bismillah Al-Rahman Al-Raheem:
14. And when he attained his full strength, and was perfect (in manhood), We bestowed on him Hukman (Prophethood, right judgement of the affairs) and religious knowledge [of the religion of his forefathers i.e. Islâmic Monotheism]. And thus do We reward the Muhsinûn (i.e. good doers - see the footnote of V.9:120).
15. And he entered the city at a time of unawareness of its people, and he found there two men fighting, - one of his party (his religion - from the Children of Israel), and the other of his foes. The man of his (own) party asked him for help against his foe, so Mûsa (Moses) struck him with his fist and killed him. He said: "This is of Shaitân's (Satan) doing, verily, he is a plain misleading enemy."
16. He said: "My Lord! Verily, I have wronged myself, so forgive me." Then He forgave him. Verily, He is the Oft-Forgiving, the Most Merciful. 28, Surat Al-Qasas
The underlined in The Holy Quran in arabic is <b>" Fa-wakazaho Musa Fa-gada a'layh"</b> Wakaz in arabic language means to push with a fist. So it differs when one comes to a man with the intention of killing with full violence, killing men women children and so on, than one who came to help a friend by just pushing an enemy. So no it is not an excuse to be violent without a just reason, and even in a just reason u must be fair and not violent. Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) ordered his wariors to call the other warior to islam before fighting, if the other warior accepted he will leave him and not fight him, but if not and insisted on fighting then he will continue fighting him. And that only in war, if in peace there will be no fighting, we will call for Islam accepted, you are welcome, u did not, there is no compulsion in relegion.
The Prophets in The Quran, yes they made mistakes, and so did our Prophet Muhmmad, but not sins, and that is to show us and teach us, since they are prophets from Allah(SWT) that no one is perfect except The Only and One Creator, He is The Only One With no Fault or sin or mistake:
Bismillah Al-Rahman Al-Raheem:
11. The Creator of the heavens and the earth. He has made for you mates from yourselves, and for the cattle (also) mates. By this means He creates you (in the wombs). <b>There is nothing like unto Him, and He is the All-Hearer, the All-Seer.</b>
12. To Him belong the keys of the heavens and the earth, He enlarges provision for whom He wills, and straitens (it for whom He wills). Verily! He is the All-Knower of everything. 42, Surat Al-Shura
255. Allâh! Lâ ilâha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), the Ever Living, the One Who sustains and protects all that exists. Neither slumber, nor sleep overtake Him. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on earth. Who is he that can intercede with Him except with His Permission? He knows what happens to them (His creatures) in this world, and what will happen to them in the Hereafter . And they will never compass anything of His Knowledge except that which He wills. His Kursî extends over the heavens and the earth, and He feels no fatigue in guarding and preserving them. And He is the Most High, the Most Great. [This Verse 2:255 is called Ayat-ul-Kursî.]
2, Surat Al-Baqara.
No one and nothing is like Him, Subhanahu wa Ta'ala, from whomever or whatever they ascribe to Him. So the purpose of prophets making mistakes is only natural to show the human nature, which is totally different from The Creator, and it is a lesson, that if we make mistakes, we should resort to The One and Only ILAH(Creator), to frgive our mistakes sins or shortcomings, putting in our minds, that Prophets do make mistakes, but they are not sinners, other wise why should I follow a Prophet who is a sinner, and I am not one. There are humans who did not commit severe sins in their lives, yes they made mistakes maybe many mistakes, but not sins, this will make me better than a prophet then, so why should I follow him. I hope you got my point Steve, and the difference of a mistake and sin, that a prophet would commit or not.
Peace