07-01-2003, 02:20 PM
Quote:What good is it to either us or you to answer any of your questions when you don't want to hear the answers in the first place?[/quote:1a90fd12b2]hmm... i don't quite get this...</div></blockquote>
<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="389" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I am not going to get into a debate with you because the best you people ever come up with is some garbage like "suppose I have a time machine....." or "suppose I have a dream....." to back your claims.[/quote:1a90fd12b2]oh, of course i can come up with something way better than that. have you heard of josephus? tacitus? pliny? did you know that many archeological findings these days support the accounts that are written in the Bible? did you know that no 1st-3rd century work ever refuted the fact that Jesus resurrected? the dead sea scrolls? serptuagint? 24,000 manuscripts? where's Judas'(or whoever he is) body?
other than attack Christianity, maybe you guys can post [b:1a90fd12b2]real[/b:1a90fd12b2], valid and factual evidences that would support your Quran.
<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="389" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I do not care to watch you talk yourself into nonsensible circles any longer. If you wish to discuss something and actually hear, that is another matter.[/quote:1a90fd12b2]i actually hear, mind you. what made you say that i'm not listening to your answers?
<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="389" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Also the fact that you have read neither the Bible or the Quran, leaves little point in this type of discussion. [/quote:1a90fd12b2]i just converted around 1-2 months ago so i had no time reading these 2 books. i'm actually starting on the Bible right now(though admittedly, i'm still in Genesis).
and if i've read both the Bible and the Quran ---- what difference would it make?
i mean, really. i intend no sarcasm or insult on that question. what difference would it really make?
well, you wouldn't expect me to find it great and convert to islam just because of that despite the evidences, right?
<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="389" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I also suggest you read the post, The difference between the Bible and the Qur'an.[/quote:1a90fd12b2]you may accuse me as being close-minded in here,(though i tell you, i'm not) but this article wasn't downright convincing. if i have time, i'll post my reply.
<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="389" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Enough said. It is not mere assertion nor is it how it suits your lifestyle, Islam IS a lifestyle.[/quote:1a90fd12b2]what i'm trying to say is, i don't believe in my religion just because it "suits my lifestyle" or that it sounds good to me. i can say i'm a wiccan because they don't believe in life over death, on God and on Satan just like i do. but that doesn't make wicca true.
hefny dude said
"[i:1a90fd12b2]I compared the two religions and found Islam to conform to my [b:1a90fd12b2]intellect[/b:1a90fd12b2] and [b:1a90fd12b2]nature,[/b:1a90fd12b2] in addition to my [b:1a90fd12b2][u:1a90fd12b2]ideals[/b:1a90fd12b2][/u:1a90fd12b2] of modesty, cleanliness, justice, and dignity.[/i:1a90fd12b2]"
where's the trace of evidence in here? well, yeah, that miraculous headache curing. but the thing is, Christians also have these "supernatural" experience. we have more actually.
<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="389" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>amai is certainly having a problem. [/quote:1a90fd12b2]funny. may i know what it is?
<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="389" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>She even denies a woman her own free will decision.[/quote:1a90fd12b2]intriguing. i would like to here some more details.
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