10-11-2005, 08:02 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-11-2005, 08:05 PM by Universist.)
Where there is smoke there is fire...
Quote:As against this the youth, whose reason is impaired and beliefs confused by the imperialistic machinations, does not wait for the truth to be made clear before him but is swept away by his passions and, without any inclination to inquire into the reality, jumps to the conclusion that Islam is antiquated and, hence, is no longer needed by man.
Islam is needed, but is also in need of reform.
Quote:We intend to discuss this problem of slavery in its historical, social as well as psychological context with an open mind and without allowing ourselves to be hoodwinked by the clamors of these tricksters and so-called scholars.
Please state your scholarly credentials.
Quote:Here a very perplexing question may haunt some persons: Why is it that Islam- so great a champion of slave emancipation and taking such radical steps towards that end voluntarily and without any outside pressure or coercion before all the world- did not also take the final and decisive step, and abolish it once for all, as it might have in that way immensely benefited mankind besides proving thereby that it was really a system most perfect and in effect revealed by God, Who dignified the sons of Adam over many of His creations?
Your a real piece of work. You compare the manner in which romans treated their slaves to the compassionate manner in which slaves were treated by Islam.
Ohhh boy can't wait to have a Muslim slave owner, they treat me so much better. Less rape, Politically Correct titles, all the real benefits of slavery with none of the harsh Roman approach. Yup, sign me up.
SICK...
Quote:For an answer to this question we need must inquire into the allied social, psychological and political problems of slavery- the reasons due to which Islam delayed its much expected and outright abolition. We must also during this inquiry bear in mind that actually the abolition of slavery was rather delayed more than Islam would have desired or allowed it if it had continued functioning properly in its pristine purity, unadulterated by extraneous ingredients of deviation.
What a bunch of crap. Slavery in Islam continues to this very day. Africa is rife with reports of slaves being forced into service in the Sudan. All in the name of Islam. Islam never eliminated slavery as an option and won't. After all if the Quran sez its ok to have them, and even provides instructions on how you are to handle your slaves, then by Allah its ALLOWED.
Unbelievable apologetics.
Quote:Islam could not effect the abolition of slavery so long as the world did not agree to put an end to the only source of slavery- enslavement of prisoners of war. So when that concord was achieved Islam welcomed it as it formed the unalterable fundamental principle of its polity: liberty for all, equality for all.
Oh yeah what about queers in Islam. If your gay you get hung. Thats what you call liberty for all, equality for all? Not to mention what happens to those who leave Islam. The Quran spells out death for those who turn their backs to Islam. So much for the polity: liberty for all, equality for all. Except for non-muslims, slaves, gays, and those who leave Islam.
Quote:A similar situation prevails in the capitalist countries of the West where big capitalists are the virtual masters who wield real power. The working classes are helpless and completely dependent upon them.
This is an outrageous lie. You have no idea about being free in America and what that means. Slavery has been abolished here in less than 200 years. You guys still do it in the name of ALLAH after 1500 years.
Bottom line,
ISLAM NEEDS REFORM.
And you can write encyclopedias full of baloney until the cows come home to justify the obvious flaws of your system, but as long as the instructions supporting slavery appear in the Quran, Islam will carry the negativity of supporting slavery upon its back as a dark burden of evil in the world. All one has to do to see this evil is to examine the truth of Islam in the current immediate histories of Africa to see that slaves are still allowed under Islam in the countries fighting wars there. It still goes on today in the name of Islam.
Universist