Is the Western non Muslim woman free???

[Universist]

Bismillah
Exactly Universist, we are not free but we are enslaved only to Allah by our choice. Rather than being enslaved to Pierre Cardin, Christian Dior or to a career path, or to means of making fortune. or or or .....etc the list can go forever.

Once again you avoid a truth. If you are non-muslim living in a Islamic State you have no choice. You MUST follow the muslim way in PUBLIC. Period. Why do you avoid this truth?

Like wise I dont think you will be able to grasp this concept although it is very simple.

And though it is very simple you fail to grasp the concept that what you might believe should not be forced on those who don't. And that is what you ignore completely. Shall I list the 100's of complaints of abuse in IRAN or SAUDI ARABIA heaped upon non-believers who dare not to follow the muslim ways forced upon them by Islamic LAW?

I have the choice to abide by the dress code or not. I abide by it willingly and see no harm or oppression in this, i have the choice to establish prayer or not, Alhamdulelah, I choose to keep it and observe it all the time, I have a choice to drink alcohl or not I choose not to, I have a choice to go for sex without marriage, I choose not to willingly. I mean Allah Is not holding a sword to my neck making me choose to abide by His rules, I choose to with full conviction.

Maybe you do have a choice. But you would be dishonest to say that this is a choice non-muslims have in Iran or Saudi Arabia. You support thier acts through your ommission that what they do is wrong.


You support oppression by ignoring the fact that Islam as LAW in Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Sudan, Iran, Pakistan, and other countries forces non-muslims to live in public under Islamic standards which are the anti-thesis of true freedom.


On the other hand wasn't it American and British troops which swooped into the Balkans and saved hundreds of thousands of muslims from certain demise at the hand of non-muslims. Yes America did what no one from your neck of the woods would do for your own. What a shameful state of affairs that no one from any Islamic State took it upon themselves to intervene in that horrible atrocity until the United States of America entered the fray.


Islamic States are all about the oppression but you don't see them committing support to any other Islamic nation in times of great need. Nope that just doesn't happen. BUT I SUPPORT FREEDOM AND MY TAX MONEY PAID FOR TROOPS THAT WENT TO THE BALKANS TO SAVE THE LIVES OF MUSLIMS. And you treat me with disrespect when I have contributed what I could to stop those atrocities. Who is arrogant I ask you, the one who calls for freedom and backs it up with action, or the one who turns the blind eye and does not help thier brother, and oppresses non muslims?

Hope you get the point I really hope so. You sound a reasonable and intelligent person. Although you resort to moching and disrespecting people around just to hide your insecurity.
But you prefer to turn a blind eye from the truth even if you see it, just to keep standing where you are.

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You disrespect me through your omission of the facts I raise in your responses. You may be free in Egypt, but only because the man controlling your country has forced Islam to the side in respect to the highest levels of government control. One day he will fall, an Islamic Totaletarian State will take control, and all freedom for non-muslims will go away just as it has in Iran, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Sudan, Pakistan, and every other place Islam manages to control.


I turn no blind eye to truth. In my country we respect Muslims and thier ways. I have no issue with Islam in America as I am not forced to accept their ways and they have no power to enforce thier rules outside their mosque or homes. Here the core value of our system begins with freedom of religion, speech, right to assembly, and right to pettition the government. We do not force our ways on Muslims. They have the true freedom of choice here. Unlike non-muslims in your lands.


And that is as it should be in a truly free society. And if you find that unusual I am not suprised. You have yet to admit that the conditions of which I speak are indeed the rule as opposed to exception in the Islamic States which I have listed. Your comments are no less arrogant or mocking when you omit truth from your statements, or fail to acknowledge the truth in mine.


Universist