God has called me

[Anyabwile]

I think as everyone else is telling you, you are not making much sense here acting like directing a suspense movie, hinting about major discoveries, not wanting to reveal them. Just reveal what you have, otherwise, I see no need for repeating yourself without a concret text.

There are no major discoveries, i dont remember ever saying this, its the same stuff that you and ever other Muslim is reading. Except through fear of scorching in Hell from God you ignore it or tell yourself "this is not supposed to make sence" No major discoveries Muslimah. God enslaving women, God allowing women to be beat, Scientific blunders in the Quran, Mohammed in the reliable hadith, abrogation etc etc no new discoveries, i've just chosen not to belive what you all want to. I also Muslima am hurt veyr much by how you speak to me one way on the forum and another way in PM's may i note, stick to being aggressive and rude, or caring and concerned, dont put on a show for those reading.

There was an originating event. It was a universe creating expansion of energy. What preceeded it may never be known. But I can say without doubt or fear of hell that no story written by men of faith accurately describes the universe or our role in it.

Yes Universist, for me the fact there was an originating event suggested to me something had to start it. Now this could be anything, something as far from any kind of "God" as we could imagine. But its something and it knew. Thats what fascinates me.


I belive the proof of creation is blatantly all around us, there was some kind of thought behind that originating event, how or what was though we may never know. And like yourself i reject any kind of religion now, im just fascinated with what put us here, whether our origin was billions of years in a natrual order of creation or not, we're here now, and it wasnt an accident. However i dont think we're supposed to work this out, if we did, it unravels anything.


I dont think God or this creator is anything close to what we could imagine, i certainly belive it has no human qualities such as anger, or punishing its inferiors as religions state, and in all honesty, i dont belive we're supposed to know what this God is about anyway, i belive we, and our make up and the limits of our knowledge were designed this way, never to know for sure. Which makes the thirst for knowing stronger of course [img]style_emoticons/default/wink.gif[/img] Maybe the day we do discover the truth, it all ends, maybe thats the creators plan, as i said before, an experiment. Who knows???


However i got lost with some of what you are writing, you may need to put some of it in more simple terms for me. Im a simple man haha. And although i have a huge intrest in science i dont grasp all of it, only on a basic level.

You know Anyawbile 'this angry God of Muhammad, saws is mine to, and you make no sense. I feel hate in your words, I am used to meet these kind of words from people that are much more distinguised from Islam than you.

This is what i tried to stress since my first post here, i dont wish to discuss Islam here, its the same topics i once defended because i convinced myself to, and i was fearful of Allah like all good Muslims. So why bring them up again, these are the same topics i once defended like a warrior.


The reason i dont want to discuss them here is because, belive it or not i dont like hurting feelings of people i consider friends, i have tried to stress this. My reason for not discussing is not because i am trying to be a "film director" as Muslmah rather bizzarely put it, it's because, as im finding in PM's because i learnt a fair bit about Islam in my time, remember i was studying this before i took Shahada to a point, the discussion i have with Muslims can make them feel uncomfortable and hurt. So i dont wish to openly discuss here, another forum fine but i still do not feel right doing it here. It's basic respect for people that i still have feelings for, even if this is not flowing both ways right now.


This seems to be frustrating Muslimah who obviously wants a confrontation a chance to perform. And i still hold a respect for you Muslimah, even if i am now an non beliver. I'm not going to take the bait. Theres no need to, we're both happy Umm, me, and you so there's no need to discuss the topics, Ronni, John Doe and others have all gone over and ran intobrick walls, especially when they came up against me [img]style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif[/img] .


I suggest perhaps Umm if you get time, both you and Muslimah look back on all my old posts, and see how passionate i was toward Islam, how i defended it, and how i confronted those who attacked it, just have a look. And then after you look, think why would i leave it? Someone who loved Islam and was dedicated to Allah so much he'd leave his family and friends, what would i see in Islam that is such a new discovery, that i would leave.


Nothing, no new discovery. I just accepted the truth, no matter how much i didnt want to. The truth is in the Qur'an and the Hadith, the same realiable Hadith you use to learn about Mohammed and Islam. You've no doubt all read the same things i have. So why would one like me who loved Islam (remember to look back at my posts) leave? Because i couldnt lie to myself anymore. Thats it, no discovery, im sorry Muslimah and others, thats all it is, as simple as that.


I do not appreciate the tone i receive but its of course to be expected. I will make an effort to post less. I work with Internet so im always online, so this site is just a click away and i see no reason not to check my PM's etc, and read the discussions but i cant make it more clear than that. The things people present about Islam which clearly show it is not a religion from God, you reject for your own reasons, i now accept those same things, because i wanted to be truthfull to myself. No matter how frightening at the time it was to admit this.


If i am responded to then, of course i will respond back otherwise, theres nothing else i can, or really want to add. Except say to ALL i am deeply sorry, all i've done is cut away all friends now, even the Muslim ones, but im the kind of person who can't accept it my heart and my actual eyes are telling me, "this is not the truth"


Umm, Dan, Radiyah, Muslimah and all others i spoke with. I am sorry for letting you down, i know one day definately not all of you, but some of you will <b>directly</b> understand this.