Child Molestation

[umm Zachariah]

Bismillah


Universist


First you wrote:

If a man over the age of 18 has forced sexual relations
with a girl under the age of 18 the man made laws of this country define that as "stautory rape

Then you wrote:

I am asking if under Islamic Law if man over the age of 18 has relations with girl
under the age of 18, if that is considered child molestation?

Now THIS is confusing, do you truly know WHAT it is you are asking? The first is forced and the second not. Isn't this TWO different questions?


If you have reached puberty you can also have a child and you can also marry. Not many do, but tecnically you can, yes. And therefore the individual self has to conclude if they are able or not to take such a big commitment.

First you convey puberty as a defining moment of female maturity, then you indicate the measure of adulthood is found in "being responsible".
Which is it? Does a female become mature upon reaching puberty, or by demonstrating responsibility?


One is a biological state of being, and the other a learned behaviour.

NOT only female reaches puberty also men for that matter so it goes for both. Responsibility I am sure you think here in a 'Western way', there children do begin to take responsible and therefore mature at an older age than in for example many Muslim countries. Taking responsibility means among other things to help out, which most children do from a very young age in Muslim families, while in the West they do not do it. We are different in this way, I have lived in both these worlds, so I do know it differs. So learing behaviour comes from taking responsibility and it is started much earlier among Muslims.

Let me rephrase my question. Do you consider sexual relations between a man over the age of 18 and a child under the age of 13 child abuse or molestation?

You rephrased it rather a lot since you suddenly CHANGED the age. Why? So which should I consider now, 15 or 13?

Assume that they are married under Islamic Law, because in western civilization such marriages are not allowed at all.

I understand such MARRIGES are not allowed in West but such sexual relations OUTSIDE marriage do occur. Are all being judged and sentenced? In Sweden one side of this 'would be no problem' since having sex without being married is not problem whatsoever, no one will care. Then when it comes to ages, it may differ, but that on the other hand would mean that you will not have the right to have sex at all until you are 18, married or not. NOW this is truly a 'lawbreaker' situation in at least the Swedish society, that is for sure. The problem is when you have to 'wait out to a responsibility age' which is 18 when you in reality may become it earlier. The state decides when you are mature, not the INDIVIDUAL self. THAT is strange to me.