09-09-2005, 09:39 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-09-2005, 09:42 PM by AhmedBahgat.)
Quote:Bismillah
as salam alykom brother Ahmed
You brought up an excellent point, a martyre is only known to Allah.
I mean a martyre in the battle field. No matter how brave one fights if the intention is not for Allah, then unfortunately he lost it.
O and welcome brother Ahmed ahlan wa sahlan sorry brothers and sisters for this arabic welcome to my fellow Egyptian. I think u r the only Egyptian member on this board beside me.
Although I just realized I want to get rid of this nationalism and make our identity Muslims [img]style_emoticons/default/smile.gif[/img]
Again we are looking forward for your input brother. [img]style_emoticons/default/smile.gif[/img]
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Thank you my dear fellow country woman, I'm glad I finally found a reasonable egyptian to discuss online very important issues that are killing me for years and years, regarding Islam and Arabs specificly the egyptians
regarding a martyr, exactly as you said it sister, for Allah Sabeel we go and fight the people who want to kill us because of our religion or kicked us from our homes , then if we get killed yet we can not know if we died martyrs, because It is only Allah that know if the fight was for "His Sabeel" "Al Lazeen Qottelo Fi Sabeel Allah", and because we can not know the others intensions for certain then we can not know that the person was really doing it for "Sabeel Allah"
in fact I will consider it a minor sin to call a dead human "Shaheed" or "Maghfoor Laho", this is non sense, because it is like we already know what Allah is doing with them for certain, and I'm sure we can not know the exact detalis for ourselves before we die about what will happen when we die, yet to know it about another person
I remember an authenticated hadith regarding a parable about a man who was doing plenty of good deeds and was a believer, when he was giving account to Allah, he told Allah I should go to the heaven due ti the many good deeds I did, Allah told the angels to take him and throw him in Hell, because he will only enter paradise with the blessing and mercy of Allah not because of his good deeds, we can not really know sister, who is Shaheed and who is Maghfoor Laho, we can only hope that our loved ones who died be treated as "Shaheed" or be blessed and forgiven then dealt with ease by Allah.
Take care sister