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A discussion about Israel and Quran
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Peace.....




Quote:104:And We said to the Children of Israel after him: "Dwell in the land, then, when the final and the last promise comes near [i.e. the Day of Resurrection or the descent of Christ ['Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) <><> <> on the earth]. We shall bring you altogether as mixed crowd (gathered out of various nations).[Tafsir Al-Qurtubî, Vol. 10, Page 338] (Al-Isra 17:104)
And the final promise is the resurrection day as u see here in this translation, and it is not only the jews will come to this land but all nations from all over, all will be forced  to this  land by a fire that will start from yemen land to the holy land of palestine, then the end of the world will come.


Peace




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Quote:Radiyah:
Using your translation, Surah 17:104 reads:


Clearly, this verse is directed towards the Jews.  The word "you" which I have colored in red is referring to the phrase "Children of Israel".  "Gathered out of various nations" clearly describes the way Jews have returned to the promised land over the last 100 years.


According to this verse, then, when the Day of Resurrection draws near the Jews will be gathered from the various nations where they were scattered, and return to dwell in Israel.


It appears to me that this prediction is being fulfilled, and that it is Allah's (swt) will that the Jews return to Israel.


Reepicheep.




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Ok here is the verse quoted both by Radiyah and Reepi.....they both say the same thing, that all jews will be brought together in a mixed crowd gathered out of various nations. I'm assuming the issue comes in when Reepi tries to apply this verse to the current state of Israel? And also Radiyah mentions a "fire that will start from yemen land to the holy land of palestine, then the end of the world will come."
<<<Did this come from a tafsir she didn't mention? I ask because what she posted made no mention of this. Well those are my questions and yes, I do think the part of the post I was confused on is indeed cleared up.


Shamms

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A discussion about Israel and Quran - by radiyah - 08-09-2005, 07:45 AM
A discussion about Israel and Quran - by Muslimah - 08-09-2005, 05:40 PM
A discussion about Israel and Quran - by radiyah - 08-09-2005, 09:38 PM
A discussion about Israel and Quran - by Muslimah - 08-11-2005, 07:56 AM
A discussion about Israel and Quran - by Rock - 08-11-2005, 10:26 AM
A discussion about Israel and Quran - by Muslimah - 08-11-2005, 11:46 AM
A discussion about Israel and Quran - by radiyah - 08-14-2005, 07:20 AM
A discussion about Israel and Quran - by Rock - 08-14-2005, 07:19 PM
A discussion about Israel and Quran - by Rock - 08-14-2005, 07:37 PM
A discussion about Israel and Quran - by Rock - 08-14-2005, 07:41 PM
A discussion about Israel and Quran - by radiyah - 08-15-2005, 08:53 AM
A discussion about Israel and Quran - by radiyah - 08-16-2005, 09:14 PM
A discussion about Israel and Quran - by Muslimah - 08-17-2005, 02:03 PM
A discussion about Israel and Quran - by radiyah - 08-20-2005, 06:52 AM
A discussion about Israel and Quran - by Muslimah - 08-20-2005, 07:23 AM
A discussion about Israel and Quran - by radiyah - 08-21-2005, 08:17 AM
A discussion about Israel and Quran - by Muslimah - 08-21-2005, 05:42 PM
A discussion about Israel and Quran - by radiyah - 08-22-2005, 07:22 AM
A discussion about Israel and Quran - by Muslimah - 08-22-2005, 07:40 AM
A discussion about Israel and Quran - by Muslimah - 08-22-2005, 08:41 AM
A discussion about Israel and Quran - by radiyah - 08-23-2005, 06:48 AM
A discussion about Israel and Quran - by AlShamms - 08-23-2005, 02:17 PM
A discussion about Israel and Quran - by Muslimah - 08-24-2005, 08:19 AM
A discussion about Israel and Quran - by AlShamms - 08-24-2005, 12:13 PM
A discussion about Israel and Quran - by Muslimah - 08-24-2005, 08:52 PM
A discussion about Israel and Quran - by radiyah - 08-25-2005, 03:20 PM

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