07-16-2005, 06:52 AM
Bismillah
salam Andy
First off let me express back that i m as glad as u r for u being able to discuss and learn about islam.
Let me explain more about me using the word recession. I never used it in an economic sense. I know of course that it is mainly used in an economic sense. however what I meant was the backward position most if not all Muslim countries are suffering currently.
And I stress it is because of lacking to apply Islam.
well yes the Western world which is not adopting Islam is vastly progressing. But Allah Shall not punish those who at the first place are not committed to the religion of Allah. But supposedly we are. And when we are and fail to apply this way, fail to treasure it and instead replace it with a mixture of something that is even ambigous just to fit it, imitate and be called democratic or advanced, that is when we suffer.
Me too I dont want to make my posts long, but this is worth talking about, since u r here to learn and it is a chance for u to do so.
Let me give u just one exmple at this post.
when Egyptian Coptic Christians asked for Muslim help (they sent to Khalif Omar Ibn Elkhattab) to intervene to save them againt the catholic oppression at that time who ruled Egypt and were pressuring the copts to follow catholism by force. Omar sent an army to do so, the important point is that Egypt was hard to open ( i mean to invade) they sent for help, he sent them extra army and a message to check which type of Sunnah they are not following (Sunnah is the tradition of the Messenger). They realized that they dont use Siwak (Siwak is a certain kind of trees which we are supposed to use to clean our teeth believe it or not clinically proved to be the best not our core of interest now or else I will go for a book size post [img]style_emoticons/default/smile.gif[/img] ). They started using it and guess what Egyptians thought they are preparing to eat them alive and gates were opened.
Are u getting the point, we left Islam so Allah Is punishing us.
There is another hadeeth (narration of the Messenger) I will dig it out Insh a Allah and post it for u here. Or even the link to it.
Insh a Allah i helped.
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