04-06-2005, 02:13 PM
Bismillah
As salam alykom brothers and sisters
Alhamdulelah Who Guided us for this and it was not for Him we wouldnt have been guided. Alhamdulelah, praise be to Allah abundant praise, praise that is adequate to His Majesty and Glory:
I spent sometime today searching on the point #3 raised by our brother Anyah.
Alhamdulelah with Allah's Close Guidance and Support I knew that it is related to the tafseer of Quran 11:38
Then I checked Tabarai, and checked more resources in Arabic in order to make sure that the contents are authenticated.
As for the Tabari tafseer I consulted:
www.qurancomplex.com
And also consulted
http://www.khayma.com/qsesalanbia/anb/No...safena.htm
Both Mash a Allah are well established credible Arabic sites
The findings are as follows:
The second page included the following translation of the hadeeth:
"Narrated Imam Ahmed under the Authority of Samrah that the Messenger Salla Allah a`lyhee wa sallam said: Sam (Shem) is the father of the Arabs, Ham is the father of the Ethiopeans, and Yafeth (Japheth) is the father of the Romans" (reported by Termidhi)
Narrated under the authority of Said Ibn Mosaiab that the Messenger Salla Allah a`lyhee wa sallam said:"Nuh begot three Shem, Japheth and Ham. Each of the three children begot three, Shem begot Arabs, Persians and the Romans, Japheth begot Turks, Cicilians, Yajouj and Majouj and Ham begot Copts, Sudanese and Barbarians"
As clearly seen none of the two narrations contain any referrence to a dua made by Nuh against his own children, or a dua for any of the children to enslave the others. La hawla wala qowata ila billah. And the referrence is not even made thru a hadeeth.
As for the Tabari tafseer, it only contained a referrence to the 3 children with no indication of who is beautiful or who is not. Just as explanation on who came on board the boat with Nuh as himself, his wife and 3 children.
for those who can read Arabic to double check if anyone doubts:
http://www.qurancomplex.com/Quran/tafseer/...b&nAya=43#11_43
http://www.khayma.com/qsesalanbia/anb/No...safena.htm
Alhamdulelah who Guided us for this and if it was not for Him we would have not been guided.
May Allah Enlighten our hearts, insight, way and keep us on the correct path ameen