Quote:Volume 1, Book 11, Number 662:
Narrated Anas:
1. The Prophet said, "Listen and obey (your chief) even if an Ethiopian whose head is like a raisin were made your chief."
I felt that why would I apologize because the Messenger used a description? how people can take this as an offense when many, not only many black people embraced, still embrace and will embrace Islam? didnt all of them feel offended before they come to the fold?
Well i can't speak for other Black Muslims but i was told by Imams and other Muslims the raisin thing isn't true, and wherever i've seen that Hadith quoted above regarding the Etheopian cheif, the "raisin head" reference is left out. As i said i've seen that Hadith in many many books and websites, but never with the rasin head reference, it's only when i read through the Hadith for myself i came across this and other distrubing things.
So in response to you sister a lot of new Black Muslim <b>don't </b>know about the raisin head comment. Because the hadiths are changed when written in books we are given. Why change the Hadiths? The only person who doesn't see this comment as offensive i've met so far is you, all other Muslim who've quoted the hadith always seem to cut the raisin heads bit out. Why?
However i do think it is best the way it is hidden, or sidestepped as it was when i originally posted the question. Because otherwise it would make a lot of black people feel very uncomfortable, possibly even turn them away from Islam. Race is very important to some of us of African descent, not all, some wouldnt care about being called a raisin head, but i'm not one of them.
Also...
2. Ishaq:243 “I heard the Apostle say: ‘Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal!’ He was a black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark ruddy cheeks
…. Allah sent down concerning him: ‘To those who annoy the Prophet there is a painful doom.” [9:61] “Gabriel came to Muhammad and said, ‘If a black man comes to you his heart is more gross than a donkey’s
.’”
3. Tabari II:21 “Ham [Africans] begat all those who are black and curly-haired, while Japheth [Turks] begat all those who are full-faced with small eyes, and Shem [Arabs] begat everyone who is handsome of face with beautiful hair. Noah prayed that the hair of Ham’s descendants would not grow beyond their ears, and that whenever his descendants met Shem’s, the latter would enslave them
.”
4. Ishaq:405 “It is your folly to fight the Apostle, for Allah’s army is bound to disgrace you. We brought them to the pit. Hell was their meeting place. We collected them there, black slaves, men of no descent.
5. Bukhari:V4B52N137 “The Prophet said, ‘Let the negro slave of Dinar perish. And if he is pierced with a thorn, let him not find anyone to take it out for him.... If he [the black slave] asks for anything it shall not be granted, and if he needs intercession [to get into paradise], his intercession will be denied.’”
This isn't the Islam i've been showed or known, im only recently digging this stuff up so all of the above is untrue right? This is the religion i was hoping to bring my Raisin head daughter up in. This is stuff i'm still looking into some of the above, but hopefully i will get a honest answer straight up first time around, instead of waiting six months to be deeply hurt knowing i and my daughter are both Raisin Heads, who's intercession will be denied to get into paradise.
I admit two of the above Hadith were given to me by non Muslims, but then so was the raisin head one and that turned out to be true so...
Also i always liked the story of how Abu Bakr saved Bilal from the torture but i never knew he replaced him with another poor Black slave, is this true?
6. Ishaq:144 “A rock was put on a slave’s chest. When Abu Bakr complained, they said, ‘You are the one who corrupted him, so save him from his plight.’ I will do so,’ said Bakr. ‘I have a black slave, tougher and stronger than Bilal, who is a heathen. I will exchange him. The transaction was carried out.”
Sorry Muslimah i would have PM'd you but i thought the comment about "if its offensive why aren't black people complaining" you posted here had to be adressed, most are not told, and as i said, the Hadiths quoted in books or leaflets with the raisin head comment in, are all edited. ive read over 100 books on Islams, all good ones, and i've seen that quote many times. I think, it was The Prophets last speech? One of the times he said it, it was from his last speech, so it's been quoted a lot in Islamic Literature. But never with the Raisin head bit? Why?
And then of course there's Satan being a black man etc, please help.
Salam