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Abrogation
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Bismillah


Peace ronniv


Praise be to Allah, and prayer and peace be upon His Messenger Mohamed. May Allah Support and guide me as much as possible in presenting this point and forgive any shortcomings ameen


Allah Say:


"Whatever a Verse (revelation) do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring a better one or similar to it. Know you not that Allah is able to do all things?" (Quran 2:106)


As long as there is this Ayah, it leaves no views on it.But does the word nskh translated here as abrogation mean the same sense as introduced by anti Islamic sites and others who tried to explain the Quran according to their own whims?? will cover this later Insh a Allah.


Before u jump up and down happy for catching the word change or forgotten and saying Ah Quran has changed.


Now let us first address this quoted Ayah aiming for a better understanding Insh a Allah:


"Whatever a Verse (revelation) do We <b>abrogate</b> or cause to be forgotten, We bring a better one or similar to it. Know you not that Allah is able to do all things?" (Quran 2:106)


The underlined word is the translation of the Arabic nansakh:


The prefix na = we


The verb naskh actually has multiple meanings:


To copy


To annul


To write


To replace


Talking about Allah's verses we can not say annul.


Now what is the object after the naskh, the object here is Ayah which is translated as verse. While the word Ayah also has multiple meanings such as sign from Allah, evidence and proof.


Just with a sensible look, if we refer back to the Quran we will find that Allah Talks about:


"And Messengers We have mentioned to you before, and Messengers We have not mentioned to you, - and to Moosa (Moses) Allah spoke directly." (Quran 4:164)


When one looks at this Ayah, it makes it clear that Allah Told His Messenger salla Allah a`lyhee wa sallam in Quran about some Messengers and kept the stories of others for reasons only known to Allah. In other words, Allah Didn’t include in the Quran stories of all Messengers and Prophets that He Sent to mankind. It is also logical and already told in Quran that Allah Gave or let us better say Supported His numerous Messengers with signs, proofs and evidences for mankind to believe and follow the religion of Islam.


When Allah Talks about Messengers the stories of whom are not included in Quran, it becomes logical that the signs given to them are not also mentioned, included or contained in Quran. It makes it logical that in such case Allah Explains that He replaces the signs given to these Messengers who are not mentioned in Quran with better ones. That whenever Allah annuls a sign or makes to be forgotten just because Allah Replaces it with a better one. The Ayah could never be applied on an Ayah of Quran. How Can Allah Expresses in such a manner about Ayahs' of Quran? How can it be logical that Allah Makes Ayahs' of Quran forgotten.


Wallhu A`lam


To continue:


The abrogation process, if u can call it so, was made within the Quran itself with the Ayahs remianing intact. Meaning, Allah Uses a gradual approach on certain matters, Like for example when Allah Say:


"O you who believe! <b>Fear Allah (by doing all that He has ordered and by abstaining from all that He has forbidden) as He should be feared</b>. [Obey Him, be thankful to Him, and remember Him always], and die not except in a state of Islam (as Muslims) with complete submission to Allah." (Quran 3;102)


When this Ayah was revealed the companions became very stressed trying to spend the night praying and more. It was so difficult for them to fear Allah the way He should be feared.


Allah out of mercy gave more space as in (however this never implies that Allah astaghferu Allah changes His mind):


"<b>So keep your duty to Allah and fear Him as much as you can;</b> listen and obey; and spend in charity, that is better for yourselves. And whosoever is saved from his own covetousness, then they are the successful ones." (Quran 64:16)


For example in this specific situation Allah Meant to show us mankind that we will never be able to pay Allah the due respect He deserves confirming that we need Allah's mercy at all times. People would take this as an abrogation. I dont see it so. We can still strive to fear Allah the way He deserves to be freared each according to the best one can. Allah Didnt Say Ok stop fearing Allah the way He deserves to be feared and just try your best.

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Abrogation - by ronniv93 - 03-04-2005, 03:56 PM
Abrogation - by Muslimah - 03-06-2005, 02:14 PM
Abrogation - by Muslimah - 03-07-2005, 09:56 AM
Abrogation - by Muslimah - 03-07-2005, 09:31 PM
Abrogation - by ronniv93 - 03-08-2005, 02:55 AM
Abrogation - by Muslimah - 03-08-2005, 08:37 PM
Abrogation - by Muslimah - 03-08-2005, 09:21 PM
Abrogation - by Muslimah - 03-10-2005, 08:22 AM
Abrogation - by umm Zachariah - 03-10-2005, 08:31 AM
Abrogation - by Muslimah - 03-10-2005, 08:36 AM
Abrogation - by ronniv93 - 03-10-2005, 09:31 PM
Abrogation - by Muslimah - 03-11-2005, 08:44 AM
Abrogation - by ronniv93 - 03-11-2005, 03:29 PM
Abrogation - by Muslimah - 03-11-2005, 08:42 PM
Abrogation - by Muslimah - 03-12-2005, 11:55 AM
Abrogation - by Muslimah - 03-12-2005, 01:14 PM
Abrogation - by umm Zachariah - 03-12-2005, 01:34 PM
Abrogation - by Muslimah - 03-12-2005, 02:05 PM
Abrogation - by Muslimah - 03-14-2005, 11:38 AM
Abrogation - by Muslimah - 03-19-2005, 01:07 PM
Abrogation - by Muslimah - 06-20-2005, 01:29 PM
Abrogation - by Muslimah - 10-07-2005, 11:54 AM
Abrogation - by Muslimah - 10-22-2005, 09:54 PM
Abrogation - by reepicheep - 10-23-2005, 12:29 AM
Abrogation - by mohsie - 10-23-2005, 04:54 AM
Abrogation - by Anyabwile - 10-23-2005, 09:49 AM
Abrogation - by reepicheep - 10-23-2005, 01:39 PM
Abrogation - by Anyabwile - 10-23-2005, 05:59 PM
Abrogation - by Muslimah - 10-23-2005, 08:02 PM
Abrogation - by Muslimah - 10-24-2005, 12:01 AM
Abrogation - by Muslimah - 10-24-2005, 12:06 AM
Abrogation - by reepicheep - 10-24-2005, 05:16 AM
Abrogation - by Anyabwile - 10-24-2005, 09:22 AM
Abrogation - by Muslimah - 10-24-2005, 09:33 AM
Abrogation - by Dan - 10-24-2005, 05:42 PM
Abrogation - by Muslimah - 10-24-2005, 06:51 PM
Abrogation - by Muslimah - 10-25-2005, 09:51 PM
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