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Is Lying Wrong or Not?
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Quote: It appaers to me though that in instances where the lie or as we say in America a little white lie that would spare harm from lets say your kids or family or as long as it brings harmony and not division or worse, that sin would be forgivin by Allah(swt) just because it shows mercy upon them.

Oh, okay. So, then based upon the circumstances, each individual Muslim could make the determination of whether or not to lie to others using their own personal reasoning. So a husband may not really be able to trust his wife and vice versa, because their spouse could lie to them if it means a more "peaceful" household?? Wow!


You also seem to be saying, with this example, that a sin is actually good. How can THAT be?




Quote: But a Lie that would bring harm or worse would be a bigger sin.

How would you know until it's over with and the harm has been done? It's too late at that point.




Quote:Take into account for example that In the Bible it says God forbids lying,but many Christians lie to their kids every year when they tell them thats theres a Santa or Easter Bunny.

First, if you truly were Christian before, then you would know that neither of these are Biblical, so you can't blame Christianity for this; blame the individuals.


And I will NEVER EVER tell my children about Santa and some goofy Bunny. That always confused me early on in my life... I couldn't figure out the correlation between Santa and Jesus at Christmas time; I thought it was about Jesus and His miraculous birth, but I kept hearing about Santa Claus. Then the story of Santa never made sense, so I never believed in it past the age of 5. I <b>Thank God</b> that my parents never instilled this LIE into me and I will not do that to my children.




Quote: Are they going to hell because they told this little white lie.

Well, again, if you were a Christian, you know that Christians do not go to hell for a single sin. But I do think that they will have to give an account before God for this and explain why they continued these lies (<i>not that there's an acceptable answer that they could give</i>).




Quote: I believe God(swt) would not be so cruel to His subjects when that lie did no severe harm to any one.

This certainly cannot be the judge of what's right and wrong. If that is the case, then Muslims shouldn't have a problem drinking so long as they do it in the comfort and privacy of their own homes. I mean, they're not hurting anyone, right? Thus, it's okay.




Quote: I believe if the lie is small and it will bring happiness and shows mercy then God(swt) is mercyful enough to forgive it right then and there,

This puts mere man in charge of determining the degree of the sin when only God can be.




Quote: Also the writers of the Scriptures claim that God(swt) said never to lie,yet also claimed He lied when He said to Adam "The day you eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil you will die".Adam did not die that same day.So the writers lied,for Allah(swt)God never lies.

Says who? What writers of the Bible say that God lied? Are you sure it's not you saying that, not the writer? It is perhaps your understanding of the word "die" that you don't understand.




Quote: The writers of the scriptures claim God(swt) lies

You are again putting words into their mouths.




Quote: Because it claims He told the Israelites that David's throne would never lack a king (from his lineage) to sit on it,Yet there hasn't been a king on the throne of David since before Jesus'(pbuh) time.

Can you bring me the relevant Bible verses?




Quote:So either you believe God(swt) lies,which He doesn't or the writers of the scriptures lied.

Or, a third option is simply that you fail to understand the Scriptures which is more reasonable to believe.

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Messages In This Thread
Is Lying Wrong or Not? - by ronniv93 - 02-25-2005, 11:42 AM
Is Lying Wrong or Not? - by Kareem_Rasheed - 02-26-2005, 08:56 PM
Is Lying Wrong or Not? - by ronniv93 - 02-26-2005, 11:08 PM
Is Lying Wrong or Not? - by ronniv93 - 02-26-2005, 11:14 PM
Is Lying Wrong or Not? - by Muslimah - 02-27-2005, 12:03 PM
Is Lying Wrong or Not? - by ronniv93 - 02-27-2005, 12:28 PM
Is Lying Wrong or Not? - by Muslimah - 02-27-2005, 01:08 PM
Is Lying Wrong or Not? - by Deen - 02-27-2005, 10:03 PM
Is Lying Wrong or Not? - by ronniv93 - 03-01-2005, 02:36 AM
Is Lying Wrong or Not? - by Deen - 03-03-2005, 10:32 PM
Is Lying Wrong or Not? - by ronniv93 - 03-03-2005, 10:48 PM
Is Lying Wrong or Not? - by ronniv93 - 03-03-2005, 10:56 PM
Is Lying Wrong or Not? - by Deen - 03-07-2005, 07:52 PM
Is Lying Wrong or Not? - by Faris_Mee - 03-28-2005, 12:09 PM

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