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Is Lying Wrong or Not?
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Quote:I thought that lying was wrong... period.  Our God is not a liar, in His nature, so why should or would it be okay for people to lie? 
God IS truth, thus to lie is to be opposite of what God is. 


But I found out that Islam Ok's lying in certain circumstances and, because of the way Islam is, it could be reasoned that lying extends BEYOND these "certain circumstances."


So, my questions are:


1) How do you justify lying in your own mind, since your religion allows for it?


and


2) How can someone such as myself, a non-Muslim, really trust what Muslims say when it is permitted for them to lie to me?  How can I ever be sure that the so-called "Muslim scholars" are being truthful, when they are allowed by Islam to lie?


<i>Just one example: Living Islam</i>




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As a New Muslim I cannot give you the answer you are asking.It appaers to me though that in instances where the lie or as we say in America a little white lie that would spare harm from lets say your kids or family or as long as it brings harmony and not division or worse, that sin would be forgivin by Allah(swt) just because it shows mercy upon them.But a Lie that would bring harm or worse would be a bigger sin.This is my understanding and if I am wrong then may Allah(swt) forgive me and lead me to the correct understanding.


Take into account for example that In the Bible it says God forbids lying,but many Christians lie to their kids every year when they tell them thats theres a Santa or Easter Bunny.Are they going to hell because they told this little white lie.I believe God(swt) would not be so cruel to His subjects when that lie did no severe harm to any one.Allah(swt) is Most Forgiving,Most Gracious than that.I believe if the lie is small and it will bring happiness and shows mercy then God(swt) is mercyful enough to forgive it right then and there,but if it brings harm and hurt and is done out of spite,hate or to bring wrongful intentions then He would not forgive it until we repented of it.


Also the writers of the Scriptures claim that God(swt) said never to lie,yet also claimed He lied when He said to Adam "The day you eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil you will die".Adam did not die that same day.So the writers lied,for Allah(swt)God never lies.


The writers of the scriptures claim God(swt) lies,Because it claims He told the Israelites that David's throne would never lack a king(from his lineage) to sit on it,Yet there hasn't been a king on the throne of David since before Jesus'(pbuh) time.Herod was a Roman puppet and not a true king of the lineage of David.(yet we are expected to believe that God(swt) forbids all forms of lying,yet He can;God(swt)..Does not sin.)


So either you believe God(swt) lies,which He doesn't or the writers of the scriptures lied.Which makes more since to believe in a God that doesn't lie but allows some lies to be over looked or to believe in a God that does lie yet forbids his subjects to lie even if that lie may be of some help at the time?


Why believe in a god that would punish you to hell fire for saving a loved one or sparing that loved one from much pain by telling a small lie?


Millions of Christians lie all the time about Santa and the Easter bunny and other things,They(Ministers) lie to the very congregations they preach to every sunday when they dont explain it to them that God(swt) or the NT never sanctioned christmas,easter(the early church kept Passover,Easter was introduced by the Catholic church) and sunday(The early church kept Saturday,Sunday was introduced by the Catholics),if they will accept lies and preach it to the very people they represent then why trust them?Are we suppose to trust them?Can they be trusted?Also some lie when they dont make it plain that God(swt) doesnt condone hate and racism(Ever been to a southern Baptist Church,they dont allow blacks).But I think over all Christians(the religious ones) are good people and can be trusted,so in answer to your post sure you can trust Muslims(the religious ones),As for all Muslims yeah probably just as much as you can those who claim to be Christian.My wife is southern Baptist but she is a trustworthy person.


But you cant say that you cant trust all Muslims because some may tell small white lies or believe its okay at times,because Christians do the same thing.


Peace!

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Messages In This Thread
Is Lying Wrong or Not? - by ronniv93 - 02-25-2005, 11:42 AM
Is Lying Wrong or Not? - by Kareem_Rasheed - 02-26-2005, 08:56 PM
Is Lying Wrong or Not? - by ronniv93 - 02-26-2005, 11:08 PM
Is Lying Wrong or Not? - by ronniv93 - 02-26-2005, 11:14 PM
Is Lying Wrong or Not? - by Muslimah - 02-27-2005, 12:03 PM
Is Lying Wrong or Not? - by ronniv93 - 02-27-2005, 12:28 PM
Is Lying Wrong or Not? - by Muslimah - 02-27-2005, 01:08 PM
Is Lying Wrong or Not? - by Deen - 02-27-2005, 10:03 PM
Is Lying Wrong or Not? - by ronniv93 - 03-01-2005, 02:36 AM
Is Lying Wrong or Not? - by Deen - 03-03-2005, 10:32 PM
Is Lying Wrong or Not? - by ronniv93 - 03-03-2005, 10:48 PM
Is Lying Wrong or Not? - by ronniv93 - 03-03-2005, 10:56 PM
Is Lying Wrong or Not? - by Deen - 03-07-2005, 07:52 PM
Is Lying Wrong or Not? - by Faris_Mee - 03-28-2005, 12:09 PM

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