02-04-2005, 09:15 PM
Quote:Ronniv,
If you BELIEVE that 'son of God' is a title, and that does not imply anything else, then that is what Islam teaches us. Even if the expression is not used in Islam. Since this title is used for many others too Jacob, Solomon, David, even angels are called that, it make sense that the title has no divine meaning.
Well, let me be clearer. Yes it is a title but that does not mean it does not reference anything divine. Jesus clearly, in the Gospel accounts, was identified as divine. So I am not denying Jesus' divinity.
Quote:On the other hand he is also called 'son of man', and that implies NO immaculate conception, which on the other hand goes totally against the Islamic belief. Islam teaches us that,
You lost me on this one. I think you are taking this term as being literal, maybe? Anyway, couple of problems on this one:
1) Son of man does not LITERALLY mean that he was the 'son of a man.' No more than using the term "mankind" means that all people are men. Son of man was a term used in that culture, language and time in similar fashion to how we use the word "mankind". It is simply identifying a person as a human being.
2) Immaculate Conception does not mean "virgin birth" and the term "son of man" has absolutely nothing to do with either "immaculate conception" or Jesus' virgin birth. This term is a Catholic phrase that actually refers to Mary herself and reflects a Catholic belief that Mary was cleansed from all forms of sin, including Original Sin, so that she would be pure, blameless, without sin and thus qualified to birth the Messiah into the world who was to also be sinless.