02-04-2005, 07:22 PM
Bismillah
Peace
Look how Allah Is describing the consequence of what u simply said and tried to correct Anya and warning him against what he ascribed to u. Anya spoke as a Muslim man. Remember this is an Islamic board and we hold our beliefs highly for we are sure it is the truth. Just look at how the Quran which is the word of Allah is explaining how disastrous it is to ascribe a son to Allah. No matter how u explain it. Plus as far as I remember well I directly asked u on another thread who is Jesus to u is he the lord or son of Lord. U said he is all of that plus saviour, …ect. These set of Noble Ayah’s of Quran sums up all the options u made about Prophet Eassa salla Allah a`lyhee wa salla who simply has nothing to do with all of this, but rather he is totally free of any responsibility he never called people to worship him.
“They say: (God) Most Gracious has begotten a son!* Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!* At it the skies are ready to burst, the earth To split asunder, and the mountains to fall down in utter ruin,* At it the skies are ready to burst, That they should invoke a son for (God) Most Gracious.* For it is not consonant with the majesty of (God) Most Gracious that he should beget a son.” (Quran 19: 88-92)
“In blasphemy indeed are those that say that God is Christ the son of Mary. say: who then hath the least power against God, if his will were to destroy Christ the son of Mary, his mother, and all every one that is on the earth? for to God belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between. he createth what he pleaseth. for God hath power over all things.” (Quran 5:17)
“They do blaspheme who say: God is Christ the son of Mary but said Christ: O children of Israel worship God, my lord and your lord whoever joins other gods with God, God will forbid him the garden, and the fire will be his abode. there will for the wrong doers be no one to help.* They do blaspheme who say: God is one of three in a trinity: for there is no God except one God. if they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them.” (Quran 5: 72-73)
“They say: God hath begotten a son: glory be to him. nay, to him belongs all that is in the heavens and on earth: everything renders worship to him” (Quran 2:116)
“Christ the son of Mary was no more than an apostle; many were the apostles that passed away before him. his mother was a woman of truth. they had both to eat their (daily) food. see who God doth make his signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth” (Quran 5:75)
“And behold God will say: O Jesus the son of Mary didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of God? he will say: glory to thee never could I say what I had no right (to say). had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. thou knowest what is in my heart, though I know not what is in thine. for thou knowest in full all that is hidden.* Never said I to them aught except what thou didst command me to say, to wit, worship God, my lord and your lord; and I was a witness over them whilst I dwelt amongst them; when thou didst take me up thou wast the watcher over them, and thou art a witness to all things.” (Quran 5:116-117)
“The similitude of Jesus before God is as that of Adam; he created him from dust, then said to him: Be: and he was.” (Quran 3:59)
I think now the situation is very clear to u.