02-03-2005, 02:11 AM
Anyabwile,
You made this comment in an earlier post that I just happened to catch:
Quote:Erm, no...this is not correct. If they belive in Trinity as Ronni does, they will end up in hell. If they claim Allah (Subhanahu wa ta'ala) has had a son (as Ronni does) they will end up in hell.
Please be careful of what you ascribe to me. To say that I believe that God "had a son" suggests that I believe that He somehow had physical relations with some entity or being to make this son. If that is indeed what you are saying, then you are incorrect. "Son of God" is a title.
Similarly, you use the title "Word of God" for Jesus. Do you, therefore, think that when Allah speaks that Jesus "pops out of His mouth" or something? I hardly think so.
Both are titles and one must understand what the titles mean as opposed to assuming their meaning.
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Umm_Zachariah and Muslimah,
I must admit that I find it difficult to grasp or believe the concept that Muhammad spoke the ENTIRE Quran, in bits and pieces (i.e., since the revelation did not all come at one time), in various places with different people around in 7 - 14 different ways and then memorized ALL of these different ways.
To me, this presents several problems:
<b>a )</b> Why, then, would some people become so upset at hearing the Quran recited in different ways if all it was was a different dialect and if they KNEW that the Quran was being revealed in this way?
<b>b )</b> What gave Uthman the right and the gall and the authority to DESTROY these other versions, or types, later on if they were truly revealed by Allah? This means that this man destroyed the very revelation of God!!! That baffles me that a person would do that if they TRULY believed it was God who did this?
<b>c ) </b>It seems to me to be such a waste. Instead of clearing up things like what really happened to Jesus, for example, time is wasted in revealing the Quran in all these different Arabic "dialects", as they are called.
<b>d )</b> Furthermore, why reveal them in all these ways if Allah knew that they would all just be destroyed within a few years anyway?
<b>e )</b> Also, would it not have been more useful to maybe reveal the Quran in OTHER languages altogether as opposed to 14 different Arabic versions? Perhaps there wouldn't be so much difficulty with translation of it if Allah had simply given it in different LANGUAGES to begin with. But 7 or 14 different versions of Arabic??? I just don't get the point.