06-15-2003, 03:04 AM
Quote:The Bible has been corrupted through time and translation. As I said before, the language spoken by Jesus was Aramic, a 'cousin' of Arabic. When it was first written, approximately 70 years after Jesus left Earth, it was not written in the language which he spoke. Throughout the ages, the Bible has been 'updated' many times. Each time the wording is slightly different. It is easy to find examples of this: [/quote:a2a94bbda7]a. the Gospel of Matthew, Luke and Mark were written around 60-70 A.D., 30-40 years after Jesus left earth, not 70. John wrote his Gospel around 90A.D and verified the genuinity of the first 3 Gospels.</div></blockquote>
b. i keep on mentioning that the 24,000 manuscripts prove that the Gospels were [b:a2a94bbda7]not[/b:a2a94bbda7] edited. why aren't you refuting this evidence?
c. Jesus spoke Aramaic yet the Gospels were written in Greek... so what? John lived with Jesus for 3 years, understood Aramaic and Greek and verified the authenticity of the Gospel that came before His. if you translate Harry Potter to Arabic, will the fact that Harry Potter has a scar on his forehead be removed?
the point is Jesus claimed to be the Son of God, the Messiah, crucified, died and resurrected all of that according to the Gospels. why would the Gospel writers and the rest of the Apostles misunderstood this claim when their life rests on it?
d.the oldest known copy of the Quran is dated 790A.D.(800 even). and even in that, there's no mention of Mohammed being a prophet. i thought Mohammed died at 7thcentury A.D?
<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="311" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The copy of the Bible given to my mother on her wedding day is very different than the one I recieved 30 years later at my confirmation. Just compare. Also, there are currently 70 something versions of the Bible available. Every denomination has a different one. I'm sure you have encountered Jehovah's Witnesses proudly displaying their version on your doorstep and that is very different than the one I grew up with! As far as how much of it is corrupt? Well, I guess it must depend on which version you decide to use![/quote:a2a94bbda7]a. i've read in another topic that you said that there are books that claim they are Qurans but in reality, it's not.
apply that to the Bible. there are Bible versions that claim to be Bibles but in reality, they aren't.
the Jehovah's witnesses people claim that there are 50,000 errors in the Bible so they "edited" these alleged errors then bingo, they have their Bible. it's easy to believe that, but in the 5 people who worked in this project, only one knows Greek.(the language of the Gospel[that guy wasn't even fluent]) all manipulated the Bible the way they want it.
i recommend you to read the King James Version. it has the most accurate and updated translation of the Bible. most of the things written there derived from the manuscript and Dead Sea Scrolls.
b. how different is the copy of the Bible that your mother received from what you received?
<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="311" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Good point. Read the above. Who was it that tampered with the gospels but the Christians themselves?[/quote:a2a94bbda7]but did the Christians claim that an [b:a2a94bbda7]angel[/b:a2a94bbda7] appeared to them and gave them the Gospels?
we have thousands of manuscripts and scrolls to prove Bible's authenticity, Quran does not come close.
<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="311" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>And may I ask you amai, What do you think about the 'female Bible' that is currently in the works? Where God is refered to as 'she' and Eve takes on a different role in the eating of the fruit in the garden of Eden? Is this not yet another corrupution?[/quote:a2a94bbda7]the female earth thingy is another false "Bible." where are their manuscripts to prove that God is a "She"?
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