Quote:As far as the debate comment, you might want to be careful with that as well, as it was a saying of the prophet(pbuh).
I was prepared for this, note the highlighted text below...
Quote:That doesn't make any sense, the one who stays to the end in my eyes would be the one who "wins" Because they can still stand strong supported by their arguments, where as those who's points for argument get knocked down one by one leave early one by one. <b>No i don't agree with that, unless i understand it wrong.</b>
Yes, i was ready for this i thought it may have been a saying of the Prophet (Peace be upon him) as i admit i have heard something similar but never had it confirmed. And i thought you might say it was from the Prophet (Peace be upon him) <b>after</b> i responded to it. It would probably have been more honest to just come out and said that where it was from, or thats where you thought it was from. But regardless, that's why i put my fail safe in which i've highlighted in my quote above. If the Prophet did say this then i simply <b>don't understand</b> the meaning, i need to chew it over and think over it more deeply. If your friend said it from his or her own tongue then i'd stand by what i said, i don't agree with them.
There you go you can win that little one if that's what you're looking to do, but anyway beside that...does not the Hadith i posted relate to you and make sense. Just re read it and decide for yourself, then make the appropriate changes. Doesn't hurt to be humble, i don't understand what you're fighting with me against to be honest. If you don't want to agree with me, read the other posts in this topic which are in agreement with mine, from people with much much much more Islamic knowledge than i could ever have. But now in your latest post your saying you do read the prayer in Arabic...when before my understanding was you don't...so i'm not really sure where you're going. Anyway...
Goodness me i should be saving this debating energy with the loopy Christians i come across at work, not a sister.
Asalaam Shaunee.