11-21-2004, 12:24 AM
Asalamu alaikum,
Most of the points you disagree with are the same ones i do as well you'll notice. However theres some where i don't agree with you on. So below are the points you picked out you dont agree with, let me respond to these...
Quote:2. I always knew I wanted to rule my own roost but feminism prohibited this.
My personal response to this is a solid rleationship between me and my wife in the household would be more important than whether i rule inside the home or not. Of course i'd want to be respected but then so would my wife want to be respected, so there's no problems here. So no, i'm not really with him on this one. Although i do understand what he's saying. I actually think he's struggling to try and admit what he just <b>really </b>wants from a relationship. The same thing he wanted when he went to search for a bride abroad. (Check his book out online)
Quote:3. Women will try to come between a man and his work
I don't agree with him on the specific quote you've pulled above but i think theres an argument in him saying "Women do not respect men who make them their first priority." If you treat someone too good, theres an argument there to say they would loose respect for you? Respect probably isn't the right word but you know where i'm trying to go. I'm not an expert in this, i've only ever been in one relationship in my life but i've seen it happen and it's happened to me. But on his other point i'm not sure women will want to come between a man and his work. If your wife loves you so much she wants you to stay home but you have to work, i don't see that as a bad thing at all, having a wife who wants to be with you? is this what he means? I can't see the negative here, a loving wife who wants to be with you? Someone help me out here, because i'm missing something.
Quote:4. Our society makes sex, love and female beauty into a phony religion
Agree with him here, especially sex, i almost used to feel strange when i was younger, staying loyal with the same partner for nearly seven years. I think i said in another post i used to get called Grandad by my friends cos i never wanted to go out clubbing looking for girls, i was happy at home. I would agree society makes sex and female beauty into some kind of religion. How a woman looks on the outside is pushed so hard in this society that it's all men see and gravitate toward. However I don't agree that society makes Love into a religion, i don't think he's right there, quite the opposite.
Quote: 5. (Beautiful women) are more trouble because of their sense of entitlement.
It is true, not in all cases of course but Beautiful women know they are Beautiful and think it is going to last forever. They forget Allah(Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala) gave them this beauty in the first place, and do not thank him so. Theres a lot of attractive women that know they are, and make it known, that they know they are in their dress attitude and social interactions. Some men like this, but even before i was Muslim it was a direct turn off for me. Modesty was/is much more attractive personally. So yup i agree with him. And sadly i know some women who will argue to the death they are Muslim but don't wear Hijab, who use their beauty tactfully.
Quote:8. Do you not want to share your wife with her boss?
Yeh he kinda stumbles with everything he writes in this section, as i said in my pervious post i don't agree with what he writes here about women making you their priority anyway. And this... "In the marketplace of love, men have all the power...We are the buyers. There are plenty of fine women, especially if we look abroad" Market place of <b>love</b>??? No no no no don't like that at all. From this i visualise women as hunks of pork at a butchers, waiting to be picked from whoever is the choicest. Yuerk, nuff to make you sick.
Quote:9. Avoid women who are overachievers.
To finish this off i would say...Avoid women who are overachievers.....if you're talking career wise and you want a family then yes avoid them. But overachieving in other ways, in knowledge etc etc Islamic studies, or studies in general then no i don't agree with him. But you can't have a family with a woman Islamically if she wants to overachieve career wise, unless you switch roles. Which i personally wouldn't have had a problem with before i was Muslim but now i am Muslim, although not forbidden, that switchng roles thing is not very Islamic is it...plus i have no patience with Children, only if they're good an i give them time.
Quote:10. In the act of love, we say a man "possesses" a woman.
Yes i already commented on this dodgy statement. I also read from an ask a scholar website online that in Islam, Rape in marriage is not recognised, is this true? Should scholars / Imams be saying things such as this online? Another topic i think.
Quote:13. Truth is liberating even if it is the truth about our present bondage.
To say men are in bondage to womens feminism is just nuts, but there is a growing movement of women like this but...because these particular women are women i am now never going to really interact with, hopefully never speak to and especially never approach for marriage then it's not really a problem for me. Dr Henry Makow PHD, really needs Allah (Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala) if he hasn't found him already.