Blame It On Me Dude!

[Iman]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="2149" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Hey Hollowell, I just fell from my kitchen stool. You know why? Because there are TWO ORIGINAL copies which you can see in Istanbul Museum and Tehran Museum.

How can there be 2 originals? Do you know what that word means? And it is NOT true that either one of them is an “original”. There is no known Quranic manuscript that is dated to the time of your prophet. If you look here: http://www.islam101.com/quran/source_quran.html, you will see that the manuscript at Istanbul is a COPY. Specifically, a COPY that was made under Uthman; not an original.


I have not found any information yet on a manuscript at the Tehran Museum, not one dating back to the time of Muhammad anyway. Can you provide a source, please?

Now, can you tell me where I can find your "original copies" of OT or NT?

That is an unreasonable request to make. How long do you think paper lasts? Especially considering how far back we would need to go and the people back then did not have modern technologies to preserve them. You cannot even produce an original Quran. I’ve looked into this before and I have never seen anyone LEGITIMATELY claim that they have the “original”.


The original was written on various pages, sometimes stones, bones of animals, parchment, etc. For someone to have the “original”, they would have to have all of these separate pieces somewhere and I have never seen anyone claim this.


The funny thing about your “demand” is that there ARE copies of the OT and NT hundreds and hundreds of years older than the Quran, yet it is the Muslims who cannot produce THEIR original, which is not as old as ours. If * you * cannot do this, how in the world can you demand that of someone else?

Because some of those were written by the Jews and Christians to corrupt the true message revealed to the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) - just as they did to their own Scriptures in the past.

Let’s be for real. I have never even seen any Muslim historian making this claim. If you’re going to say this, then provide a * CREDIBLE * source.

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Ronniv


i don't like what you are saying about Islam and our Qur'an.


let me tell you something, if you wan't to learn about Islam and the Qur'an then listen to what we tell you or try to learn by yourself if that will make you happy other wise get out of this place cos it's not for some one like you who is only talking about Islam in a bad ways. we know our Qur'an is original and nothing you said will change that so don't wast your energy friend and out of this place ok!