11-18-2004, 02:43 PM
Quote: <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="christynicole1974" data-cite="christynicole1974" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="2149" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If we are going to "qote the bible, lets get the quote right.
Just to clear this up.... Adam, Eve and the serpant were all punished individually for thier sin. The Snake was to crawl on the belly and be hatede and stepped on by women.....
Gee, Yahudi’s knowledge of Genesis Chapters 2 and 3 ‘Iz no goodh’!
Now read with me your holy book woman - Verse 15, Chapter 3, "I will put enmity between you and the woman and between your offspring and hers...."
Clearly the curse directed at the snake is eternal, given this reference to future generations. And it is a curse as verse 14 says,
"Because you did this, more cursed shall you be..."
Now look at the sixteenth verse, the alleged "curse" of the woman. Do you see the word "curse" there anywhere? No, because it is not there. The woman was punished for her acts but not cursed.
On to Adam (Chapter 3, verses 17 -20). The word "cursed" appears in this section, right? Yes, but look at verse 17, "Cursed be the ground because of you." Not "Cursed be you." Big difference!
Adam was going to have to farm (work hard) for a living but absolutely no curse was applied to him directly. It didn't happen. Period.
So we don't have a curse? Wasn't the punishment eternal?
Check again. I've pointed out the reference to future generations in the curse of the snake. There is absolutely no reference to future generations in the punishments of Adam and Eve.
Wasn't this somehow implied, moron
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You should really not use offensive slurs such as moron if you are trying to present Islam in a peaceful light. I said nothing slandaras toward you.
I do appologize for being here. I was looking for honest and direct answers about the muslim faith, but have only been insulted and called names by you.
Thank you to those who were kind and helpfull. This is not the furst place I have gone to look for real answers, and it wont be the last. I do feel bad though for the true followers of Alah, who are full of love and kindness. It makes it so much more difficult to defend and share Islam when there are people out there who claim they are Islam and slander people, hurt people and worse in the name of Alah.
My I dont think that Alah would call me a moron or some of the other hateful things that this Rehmat charechter has said to me.
Anyway, go ahead Rehmat and cuss me out or say I am stupid or whatever mean and hateful thing comes to mind (surly it wont be from ALAH but rather satan puttin gevil words in your mouth) I wont be around to read it.
Blessing to you all.
Christy