10-21-2004, 07:27 PM
ronniv, I noticed that u objected to any quotation from Barnabs.
Usually as u noticed I place short posts, sorry if I will have to put this long one.
I had this article long time ago written by a revert woman. She quoted nothing but bible verses not inlcuding Barnabs.
Just read Insh a Allah and reflect:
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(((((Produce your proof if you speak the truth)))))
Jesus crucification is one of the most important incidents written in the bible so what I am asking now.??? That an important event like that should have be mentioned and maintained in the most right and logical way. Unfortunately; what I discovered here is completely the opposite for example; in MATHEW [26:36] “Jesus went with his disciples to a place called Gethsemane; and said to them. “Sit here while I will go over there and pray”. He began to be sorrowful and troubled. …then; he said to them, “my soul is overwhelmed to the point of death” [38 ]. I asked myself if Jesus is truly the Lord of the universe so to whom he prays, and since he wants to save us from our sins so why all this trouble he feels and sorrows to the point of death. In the verse [39]“ Going a little farther, He fell with his face to the ground and prayed, (my father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will but as you will” going a little through…. asking his lord to prevent “this cup” from him. Also in MATHEW [26:66-67-68].”The high priest said that Jesus is worthy of death..Then; they spit in his face and struck him with their fists. Others slapped him, prophecy to us Christ who hit you ??” they even made fun of him
How demeaning to perceive the supposedly to be God who created the universe in such an image. If one would argue that Jesus had two natures both divine and human simultaneously and that he died in human quality this poses other problems, was that Jesus has to undergo a punishment to purge??? While Jesus sits on the right hand side of God which makes him different from God. And if Jesus was a human being on earth and remains a human being also in heaven SO at what moment will he be a complete [GOD]. God punishes the innocent in order to be able to pardon a sinful? Is that a logical way to set free the sinner/ why also these three days in the grave? It would have sufficed to open the gate of the prison after one day? Further; what about the sinners who come after Jesus departure???? So as Jesus descended as a dead person into the grave; incapable of doing any thing would serve no purpose….!!!!! MORE THAN THIS;??…I think that the forgiveness of sins should come out of the repentance of the sinner and by the grace of GOD; and not by punishing an innocent even if he is Son of God.
IN THE COMING STATEMENT: DO YOU BELIEVE THAT JESUS HIMSELF IS ADMITTING THAT HIS FATHER IS BETTER THAN HIM !!!!! JHON 14:28. “I am going to the father for the father is greater than I|” he also admits that he is sent from the only GOD as clearly stated in JHON 17:3 “now this is eternal life: that they may know you; the only true GOD and Jesus Christ you have sent”.
Jesus as a prophet:
Do you believe that Jesus himself is confirming as manifested in IN RELEVATION [18:8] that he is a prophet he says: “ worship GOD!! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy”.
In another position of the RELEVATION [22:7] HE says “Behold I am coming soon!! Blessed is he who keeps the words of the prophecy in this book”.
IN RELEVATION [22:19] JESUS warns against the sin of changing the bible “IF any one will take words from this book of prophecy GOD will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are discribed in this book”.
Here is another verse proving that JESUS is a prophet IN MATHEW[13: 57] most of the people around him refused his teachings which made him say “THEY take offence of him, only in his hometown and in his own house is a PROPHET without honor”.
The real source of miracles perfromed by Jesus ******
IN MATHEW [9:6-7-8] “Then; he said to the paralytic: get up take your mat and go home. And the man got up and went home, when the crowd saw this, they were filled with awe; and they praised God, who had given such authority to man”.
THE PREVIOUS VERSE EXPLAINED ITSELF.