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Why Convert?
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Hi again Ronniv93,


You could try to read through what I wrote about fitrah, since it is rather revealing if you want to understand the way Allah, SWT, gives us knowledge of Him. I don't know if you did since you did not comment that at all.


''in Islam you call Allah All-Forgiving, correct? Well, can't a human being be forgiving? ''


Well there is a big difference, Allah, SWT is ALL-forgiving, you forgiving your family and friends is another matter. That is forgiving between humans. Another issue.


If Allah, SWT, plants KNOWLEDGE in our hearts it does not mean we are like Him. He created everything, but this 'everything' is His creations.


It would be like saying that you as a human being 'creates' or designs a new model for a car-factory, does that make you a car too? I don't think so. But you put your knowledge into that car so it can be driven safely, and you construct it and make the appearance of it to your liking, but you will still not be a car. You will be the constructor of the car.


''I don't believe there is a "religion of Allah". Religion is simply a name/title we use to identify one set of beliefs from another. Like, I don't look at my faith as a "religion". Religion, in my mind, symbolizes a bunch of rules, do's and don'ts, rituals and practices but no relationship.''


I think you are wrong. There IS a 'religion' of Allah and that is the one that always have been taught to by His prophets, to SUBMIT to Allah, SWT. That is why Islam, that means just that, is not namned after someone, but only 'namned' after what is the Will of Allah, SWT. The things that you call do's and don'ts and rituals, are very NECESSARY IF you want to KNOW what it is that Allah, SWT, wants you to SUBMIT to. Without that GUIDANCE you will not know HOW to submit to your Creator. You will try to do it your own way INSTEAD of following the way that He is showing you. And THAT is NOT submitting at all.


''That's one of the reasons why Jesus didn't commend or praise the Jewish scholars/teachers of His time. They knew all the right rituals, the right way to do this and that.... but they didn't KNOW God.''


Would you say that is what the Jews today do - that they don't KNOW?


Did you not say that EVERYONE KNOWS God? What makes you now say that the Jews in the time of Jesus, PHUB, did not know God?


Regards

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