10-10-2004, 02:01 PM
Anyabwile,
Quote:Ok so compare those minor changes (you have not shown me proof of as I have you) to these changes...
So, when you say “compare these minor changes”, are you saying that you are aware that there are differences? In any case, this is not really the topic of this thread and could make a lot of people upset to mention it. If you want to know <b>one</b> of my sources of information, you can check the book “Ulum Al-Quran”. You can do an internet search and find the text of the whole book online. He has specific sections/chapters where he talks about these differences.
Quote: Anyabwile said:
I highlighted what you said in dark letters because it's very important. What i highlighted is denial.
You may highlight what you wish.
For you, you have already (<i>without even knowing me or my background</i>) judged that I am in some sort of state of denial. That is NOT what I said. I specifically told you that I <b>did</b> take the time out to research the claims.
Why didn’t you put in bold the part where I said <b> There's lots of speculation and truth-twisting and sometimes, outright distortions and lies</b>?? THAT should be the part that is highlighted.
Thats why instead of just saying come with us...Muslims will show you facts. Then if you don't want to accept facts, historical facts, then that's denail.
You know, a person could come here and make all kinds of claims and ugly statements about Islam, the Quran, your prophet, etc. and base it all on “historical facts”. Of course, no Muslim would agree with them, NOT because they disputed the HISTORICAL FACTS, but because they INTERPRET and UNDERSTAND history in a different light than a non-Muslim. But I haven’t come here denigrating and insulting you, your religion, your book, or your prophet. Why are attacking me and my faith so much, without even knowing anything about me?
Quote:I understand why most christians will never become Muslim, when you're bought up or follow something strongly especially over time it's impossible to change.
I actually find this rather insulting. What you are seeming to say is that I can’t think and make a judgment on my own. What you’re saying is that I am just blindly following the faith of my parents. Well, you know what? You’re dead wrong. MY faith is based upon my personal experience with God and with His Word and with His promises.
Do you know that I actually started studying Islam very seriously, just wanting to know what it was all about? Do you know that I came to a point where I actually thought that maybe everything I believed was wrong? It scared me. I asked myself a question: “If Islam is true and Christianity is false, are you willing to convert?” I said “YES!” Because I seek TRUTH; not to hold onto something that’s familiar to me. I even made up my mind that if I was to convert, I’d go “all the way,” wearing hijab, the whole thing.
<b>BUT</b>, I KEPT seeking and researching AND THEN I began to see how much people will lie about the Bible and Christianity, all in an effort to build Islam up. The supposedly well-respected “leaders” in Islam were even spreading falsities.
<b>How can my rejection of lies be “denial”?</b>
Quote:You also avoided my question asking..
I'm not sure why you avoided this but i'll ask again who is right? Also could you clear this other little one up for me...
I avoided it because it had nothing to do with my initial question.
If you just really want an answer, I honestly can’t give you one. You’ve thrown out 2 very different numbers (20 denominations vs. 75) but no specifics on which denominations you’re talking about. How am I supposed to give a specific answer to a vague question?
Quote:Your overall response was most dissapointing, you have shown me as a new Muslim nothing at all, except this. You have no explination because there isn't one,
Well, it wasn’t my goal to impress you. If I “disappoint” you that much, then maybe you and I just shouldn’t dialogue with one another. I’ve barely made any posts at all on this board; I just came here and already you have jumped on my case, made judgments about me with no knowledge OF me, decided <b>FOR ME</b> that I have “no explanation” for the points you brought up, etc.
Is it your right to be so critical and judgmental? I can see if you actually KNEW something about me, but you don’t.
BTW, just FYI. . . . I am a female, not a male. See? You didn’t even know that much.