Question 1

[amai]

What about the people before him??[/quote:2235553269]those people who believe in God before Christ will be the guests in the wedding of Jesus and the Church. (meaning, straight to heaven) i think those who didn't hear about God but had a good heart has a possibility to enter heaven.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="260" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Believing that Adam is your God would have made much better sense since he is the 1st ever human.[/quote:2235553269]bingo. Jesus is also called the [b:2235553269]Last Adam.[/b:2235553269]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="260" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>the holy ghost, father and son are one being as you claim. yet you also claim the son to have died.[/quote:2235553269]Jesus resurrected 3 days later. He wasn't dead(as a Man) forever.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="260" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>so now, that one being is missing a part, no? if the holy ghost, father and son are one, then the holy ghost and the father ONLY are what? 0.59? [/quote:2235553269]:mrgreen: lol. but seriously, their still one. the Son, though He died for 3 days, never ceased on existing. He still has His soul. even if their in different places, they're still one. don't ask me how they managed. God has powers far beyond our imagination.

just like now, the Holy Spirit is in every real believer yet the tri-unity is still there.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="260" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Maybe the point you were trying to make about approaching religion with an open mind is actually good advice to yourself as well.[/quote:2235553269]i'm doing just that and that. i've approached atheism, hinduism and even wicca.(and now, this.)

i had a chat with my newly muslim convert last night, he said muslims believe in the Torah. i asked if the whole of it, he said "just some."

(some goes on like this)

me: how do you know what parts to believe?

him: logic and reasoning

me: and you know very well that human logic and reasoning is flawed, right?

him: yes

me: are you aware of the Messianic Prophecies?

him: yes, i am.

him: and Jesus is the Messiah or Messenger of God

considering your fellow muslim was right, how did you know what you consider "logical"(in the Bible) is right and wrong?

and if Muslims believe that Jesus is the Messiah, why do you think would Allah save Jesus from suffering, when it's the main ingredient for Salvation? if He didn't suffer(and die) then He wasn't able to save us. therefore He isn't the Messiah.

so He isn't the Messiah. well, if you're aware of the Torah(or Old Testament), there are [b:2235553269]hundreds[/b:2235553269] of Messianic prophecies in there. all were fulfilled by Jesus. so if He's the Messiah, then He suffered and died for us which means He was the one who was crucified, not some other person.

note: i just based my conclusions with the answer of my muslim friend. correct me(so i can correct him) if i happen to be wrong. thanks.

i have few questions, please answer it.

1. you said it wasn't Jesus who was crucified but another person, where did you get this? quran?

2. did the person who was crucified, look like Jesus?

3. what happened to the body of the Jesus-look alike when he died?

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